List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[JDWCE]

Good post. There’s strong arguments for selecting and not selecting him. We don’t have a great record with recruiting based on underage years/performance. Despite being IMO the most complete footballer of the draft class, using a top 3 pick on him as you rightly point out is risky. Can’t believe I’m even writing that after his champs a year ago. If he’d played the whole season and this is what he’s producing I’d take Draper but if the draft was tomorrow and he’s available I’d still take FOS.

Both of these kids have an outstanding attitude and we can’t really go wrong with one or the other. If they are both gone I’d take Smillie who by all accounts seems to also be a great kid from a good family.

1. FOS
2. Draper
3. Smillie

There’s a chance the decision is already be made for us in the unlikely event of the Tigers not taking Jagga at #1.

Whichever way you skin it, having a top 3 pick this year looks the goods

 

[random260]

Without draper in the mix.

If it was between Jagga and Finn it's now a 50/50.

We can't take Finn without his ability to accumulate. His reason for being better then Jagga was elite ball use and accumulation. Finn elite ball use onky doesnt carry him high uo draft order.

It's super risky. In saying that it's a coin flip for me. I'll go back on fourth with jagga and fos

 

[Elite Pete]

Without draper in the mix.

If it was between Jagga and Finn it's now a 50/50.

We can't take Finn without his ability to accumulate. His reason for being better then Jagga was elite ball use and accumulation. Finn elite ball use onky doesnt carry him high uo draft order.

It's super risky. In saying that it's a coin flip for me. I'll go back on fourth with jagga and fos

Hasn’t he always had decent numbers until this year? A little concerning this year but has all the tools

 

[random260]

Hasn’t he always had decent numbers until this year? A little concerning this year but has all the tools

Yeah he has. It's concerning that in his draft year I'd go as far as saying he seemingly lost his ability to accumulate to emphasis this fact and raise the concern

 

[Spooky17]

Draper still on top for mine. Complete package, seems like the safest bet.

That said, I wouldn’t be unhappy with any of him, Jagger, FOS or Smillie.

No standout this year like Harley. Great depth though, need as many top 25 picks as we can get.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Do we are locked at pick 3 come start of trade season

I’m ok on one of Jagga, Draper or FOS

My expectation is that Norf will be a cheap slide from 2 to 4 if Crows keep the pick and want Draper.

If Tiger trade Bolton, Baker and Rioli, they can afford to stay put. There are enough tall options later in round 1 for them to hold their nerve and not pay overs for say a Trainor. Walk away with 2 quality mids, 2 quality talls and 2 top utilities with their 6 picks inside 25

The Hawks look finals bound do their R1 might be just after I wanted but will still give us quality.

We should have 3 picks inside 25 (ignoring the nga fs). A high possession mid, a running hb and a KPD

 

[stallon]

Hawks making finals now, Barrass pick probably 12-15

Want a 2nd rounder AND a player along with that pick now

 

[mattyc75]

And he was rated a generational player when taken at pick 2.

The SA clubs were frothing.

Another example of top 3 picks not being sure things.

That was mainly by knightmare who said he was the best thing since sliced bread. Maybe at the time he was right but he's said plenty of outlandish stuff on bf

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[WCE_phil]

FOS will be a HB at the next level.

Smith is well ahead of his development in comparison to others in this draft class. Do not want. Slim frame, short, poor kick.

 

[Obeanie1]

I have Oliver as the back up in the event TT is gone

Is Oliver ranked around top 10?

Ive seen him as a late 1st / early 2nd.

Would bwe be reaching with 10 or do we get another later 1st to land him?

Its why multiple picks say 3 in the top 20 and a couple more in the 20 to 30's is so attractive. Just need to be carefull as a bid on Champion could come in the 20s.

 

[Obeanie1]

FOS will be a HB at the next level.

Smith is well ahead of his development in comparison to others in this draft class. Do not want. Slim frame, short, poor kick.

Hopefully a local team picks him before our pick.

He can get the ball though and plenty of it.

 

[random260]

I don't think jagga being ahead in development is a knock.

We need the draftee to be ready year 1. If jagga is ahead in development and there is little more upside then great. I'll take short term gain for long term pain at this point.

We are so in need of midfielder it's not funny.

Would we really be mad if we drafted tstats clone from dons? He's a ball butcher by foot but can accumulate

 

[eaglevision]

Is Oliver ranked around top 10?

Ive seen him as a late 1st / early 2nd.

Would bwe be reaching with 10 or do we get another later 1st to land him?

Its why multiple picks say 3 in the top 20 and a couple more in the 20 to 30's is so attractive. Just need to be carefull as a bid on Champion could come in the 20s.

Oliver is the second best HBF in the class, I think he’ll go in the mid 20s. Hawks making finals would be a disaster for a potential Barrass trade. I want Travaglia or Lindsay out of that trade otherwise Hawks will need to upgrade their pick into top 10 or I hope Saints, Dees, Dons or even Blues if they miss finals come after TB.

 

[Obeanie1]

I don't think jagga being ahead in development is a knock.

We need the draftee to be ready year 1. If jagga is ahead in development and there is little more upside then great. I'll take short term gain for long term pain at this point.

We are so in need of midfielder it's not funny.

Would we really be mad if we drafted tstats clone from dons? He's a ball butcher by foot but can accumulate

Would we be mad to use pick 3 on a Tstats clone who's poor kicking is keeping him in the VFL as the Essendon league team plumits out of the top eight?

You'd be happy with a sugar hit but lose long term?

Or we could just pick a bigger player who can kick as well as get the ball. Like Draper. Or FOS or Smillie or Reid or Lalor.

 

[Cursedsword02]

Bookmark this post mate and revisit it in 2 yrs. A lot on here will be eating humble pie. You're all gonna kick yourself if we pass him up.

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Can't pass him up if he doesn't make it to Pick 3.

 

[Obeanie1]

Reported several clubs interested in Darling.

Oviously not a huge expectation on what he would land but which clubs?

Swans? Straight swap Sheldrick?

Demons? Straight swap Judd McVee?

Freo look set with young talls.

He will be chasing an extension and the Eagles likely wont offer better terms. One year extensions.

One thing with Jack is he's been durable and tough enough to play through injury and rehab. A finals contender would see him as quality depth. Collingwood?

 

[Elite Pete]

Them trading back for Trainor does make sense.

In our hunt for Sid. I don’t think Tigers or Roos go Sid.

This is why Saints losing Battle and getting Band 1 would help us in our quest. While Saints are likely to go mids, they would also be in the market for a backman with a not Howard and Wilkie of note. Trainor the logical fit but Will come down to how they rate him compared to the ones expected to go in the 20s.

We could use it to scare the Roos into not trading back with the Crows, knowing we might do the same and still get one of the top 4 mids with pick 5 and saints would still get a Langford/Reid/Lalor.

Hope is both Saints and Roos both fall in love with the idea of Trainor.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

While I had Trew as a delist come October, I think that is less likely given the last month. He is very solid depth when played in his position

He stays on list for mine.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Pick 3 is easy. Just take Reid!

 

[CountryLad]

Pick 3 is easy. Just take Reid!

Do you think he would be okay with heading West mate? I guess that’s the biggest question i have around Murphy and it’s based on nothing except for being a metro boy. He’s definitely one that i think is really worth looking at pick 3 if he was okay with moving.

 

[eaglevision]

Reported several clubs interested in Darling.

Oviously not a huge expectation on what he would land but which clubs?

Swans? Straight swap Sheldrick?

Demons? Straight swap Judd McVee?

Freo look set with young talls.

He will be chasing an extension and the Eagles likely wont offer better terms. One year extensions.

One thing with Jack is he's been durable and tough enough to play through injury and rehab. A finals contender would see him as quality depth. Collingwood?

Packaging Darling and BWill up for a late 2R and a F3 would be good move. Pies and Demons would be two teams likely to be aggressive at the trade table who a KPF and chop out ruckman with some forward craft might be appealing to. Dees forward line would finally have some structure.

 

[Mattman93]

Pick 3 is easy. Just take Reid!

Lalor*

 

[eaglevision]

Do you think he would be okay with heading West mate? I guess that’s the biggest question i have around Murphy and it’s based on nothing except for being a metro boy. He’s definitely one that i think is really worth looking at pick 3 if he was okay with moving.

Someone mentioned he did an interview last year and said the worst thing would be moving interstate. Him and Lalor are very hard for me to split in terms of draft order.

 

[THE A5]

If Darling does find interest and gets traded out I won’t mind it as we have a couple kids deserving a look in but there will be a part of me that will be bitter he ends his eagles career on 298 games. Three years ago it when Bunga became the first eagle to 300 it looked like JD and Gaff were certainties too. Don’t think any of the current seniors will get there

 

[Cuzz09]

No guarantee for Draper to get to 3 so why not trade 3 and mid 20s to Adelaide for 4 and Curtin?

Still get 2 decent kids

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