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Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2024, Part I
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You really think that people are going to have sympathy for the Pies fans, who are REGULARLY seeing their club have success (16 VFL/AFL flags now is it?) versus Saints and Bulldogs fans?
None of the Saints fans I know have seen a Premiership.
Pies fans I see are carrying on like they have gone 100 years without a Premiership, so when I see "you can really see what it means to their lifelong fans" I have a giggle.
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Disagree with all of those points.
How much did it NOT mean to you last year after our 3 in 5 years?
No way are they worse than Tigers fans who were more raucous and more entitled
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Exactly.
A lot of those flags were won before anyone alive today would have been able to witness them. It's part of their history and legacy but actual relevance to modern-day fans is limited. They've been one of the more successful clubs, certainly in terms of playing finals and GFs, remaining relevant, but not the most successful. 1990 came after a big drought; 20 years to get another and 13 more to this one. Hawthorn remain the modern-day/AFL elite standard for winning flags. Had Geelong made more of the 1990s GFs, we could have said similar.
Flags are special regardless of how long it takes to win one. While some clubs have won more of them, as a supporter you never know when the next one will come. One minute you can be winning flags every other year; the next you're staring down the barrel of a 50-year drought. So celebrate them when you can see them.
Never said flags aren't special, I am pointing out the Pies fans I encounter are carrying on like winning this year was a true underdog story when they were very well looked after, and that in MY experience their fans are currently worse than Richmonds were in 2019 a week on.
Also when Geelong wins flags, I don't go around telling people how much it means to me especially when I work with people who support clubs who haven't either won one in ages, or won one at all. No need for you all to get panties twisted over a throwaway comment
Also when Geelong wins flags, I don't go around telling people how much it means to me especially when I work with people who support clubs who haven't either won one in ages, or won one at all. No need for you all to get panties twisted over a throwaway comment
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You're the one carrying on mate, not us.Never said flags aren't special, I am pointing out the Pies fans I encounter are carrying on like winning this year was a true underdog story when they were very well looked after, and that in MY experience their fans are currently worse than Richmonds were in 2019 a week on.
Also when Geelong wins flags, I don't go around telling people how much it means to me especially when I work with people who support clubs who haven't either won one in ages, or won one at all. No need for you all to get panties twisted over a throwaway comment
This has been discussed on the main board. The "modern era" starts from 1990 or as late as 2000. The 80s are distinct from what I'd call modern, although apologies for those who don't consider that the case.
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Such a massive let-down this guy was. Not his fault - it just sucks.
Nth Melb and Geel were bad re the kicking - but both those sides GOT totally outplayed in the 2nd half - and both lost comfortably
Collingwoods was 100 times worse - because they were still 3 goals in front at 3qtr time - and right in the game to the death
The problem for Coll was Carlton was a dangerous- talented opponent - i also went to the 2nd semi that year - probably the best- most exciting game ive gone to as a neutral - Coll won by just over a goal - McKENNA kicked 9 and Jezza kicked 8 - so there wasnt much between the teams - actually a Carlton supporter last off season - put the video of that game up - qtr by qtr - i hadnt seen it - since i watched it live - it is a fantastic game
If you can remember a Geel game early in the 1990 season at Princess Park against Carlton - at h/time it was something like Geel 9-17 to Carl 4-5 - the Cats should have been 15 goals in front at h/time - but ended up losing narrowly - that game is a carbon copy - identical to what happened in the 70 GF - Coll should have been a mile in front at h/time
Actually it was his 2nd stupidest comment - because in the lead up to the last h/a game - he said quote - The Dons will get them - beat them next week - absolutely ridiculous
Coll have had a pretty strong/consistent past 20 years - they have 2 Flags - thats probably right on the Tote Odds - if they jag another one quickly - then its 3 in 20 - and competing strongly most of those years - then it is a terriffic period
I looked up some results for this recently actually.
Wasn’t there some kind of “challenge” system?
1925 we finished on top, lost the semi and progressed straight into the Grand Final?
Looking at the 1926 season, Collingwood finished on top, lost the semi to Melbourne and went straight into the Grand Final?
1929 same thing. Collingwood got belted in the semi and made the Grand Final?
Then In 1930, we played Collingwood In the prelim and beat them. Then for some reason we met again the week after in the Grand Final and lost.
What an utterly bizarre system.
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Aligns with the end of history
Im not certain how the Challenge system worked - whether it applied to just the top team or the top 2 teams - but i read about the 1930 one a couple of years back because Geel were involved
So final 4 - and it was simply 1st Coll played Rich 3rd and Coll won - and 4th Geel beat Carl 2nd - and then the 2 winners Coll and Geel played off in the GF
What you have to factor in - is both Coll and Carlton is they both won 15 out of 18 - where as 3rd and 4th Rich and Geel only won 11 out of 18 - but i dont know if it applied to the 2nd side if say the top seed got eliminated in week 1
So Geel beat Coll in the 1st GF - Coll had the right of challenge - 2nd GF was going exactly the same - beautifully for the Cats - 4 goals up at h/time - then i was glad i wasnt around for the 3rd qtr 8-6 to a single point - the Maggies way
So i can see to some degree why there was a challenge - because otherwise there would be no advantage whatsoever in finishing 1st or 2nd compared to finishing 3rd or 4th
I can understand giving that sort of deal to a Petracca or a Curnow, the genuinely elite players of the competition. But thats a lot for Naughton who's form can sometimes get very patchy.
Thinsg sure have changed from when the filth on mass boooooo'ed Joel ... now its their chosen one ... things are very different..
Yeah it was pretty ordinary. Puts to me anyway a whopping asterisk next to Collingwood's late '20s team and how invincible they allegedly were. In one year they were fortunate to even make the Grand final (1929), and in 1930 they simply should have had their season ended at the Prelim.
Yes we were fortunate to benefit from the same system in 1925 as well.
Is it really "accused" when we all kinda saw it? Its not like it wasn't shown on the telly or witnessed live by 100k odd people...
Thing is he was ducking during the match too, which leaves us with a conundrum. Do we call him Duckos or Diveos?
I can. It's amazing you mention that game because for whatever reason I remember it vividly. And I do recall that halftime scoreline.
Just checked - Ablett 4.4, Robert Scott 0.4, and Ken Hinkley 2.7. Ouch.
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