Autopsy Toothless Bulldogs overcome Norf in a game not for the ages

[Leon]

Should we wait to erect Lobb's statue before he's finished playing or put it up now?

Save some time and do it now I think.

Think it’s also high time Lobb’s name was put amongst names like Messi, Jordan, Ali, Federer etc al

 

[Munnez]

Better to win ugly than lose pretty.

Makes a welcome change to grind out a win rather than go down in flames. Didn't panic and held our nerve to ice the game. Hopefully it is a sign that the group is starting to mature.

 

[TMoney22]

I don't get concerned with English being beaten in the ruck. But his efforts around the ground have been pretty bad this year and especially today. If he doesn't contribute around the ground he doesn't add much to the team

 

[bresker]

Agree with this, wish he'd cut it out. Had a friend at a game recently mention how astounded he was to hear how harsh Marra was arguing with West about a mistake.

Yeah he gave West an absolute spray recently.
There's no doubt he makes good leads that aren't honoured, but he's in shocking form.
He's been poor all year.

Brendan Fevola used to engage in similar behaviour but he had the runs on the board. He was an absolute weapon when up and about . Richo too.

I don't like it when people call him lazy or uninterested, as my spider senses go tingly when it's often the indigenous boys who get called such adjectives . Gotta check yourself before you wreck yourself.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Yeah he gave West an absolute spray recently.
There's no doubt he makes good leads that aren't honoured, but he's in shocking form.
He's been poor all year.

Brendan Fevola used to engage in similar behaviour but he had the runs on the board. He was an absolute weapon when up and about . Richo too.

I don't like it when people call him lazy or uninterested, as my spider senses go tingly when it's often the indigenous boys who get called such adjectives . Gotta check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I suspect he tries hard and fitness might be a factor but look at his second efforts and defensive pressure compared to Naughton’s.

He’s just not very intense.

I’ve seen plenty of non-indigenous players called lazy or disinterested on this board before. Long bow to draw.

 

[grassman75]

I didn’t see Marra whinge to his teammates, but I saw him drop 3 sitters and another gettable. He has absolutely no right to critique teammates when he is torching their great kicks to him because he is not concentrating enough. That’s all dropped chest marks are, lack of concentration.

Gave Cody a massive spray after he kicked it short on a shot on goal and then proceeded to **** up a mark himself about 30 seconds later

 

[BEaston]

Something interesting to note, this data is from a couple of weeks ago, but on all metrics Gallagher is actually one of the best field kicks in the side and 34th afl wide. Would suggest these stats are deceiving (see number 4….)
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Caleb Daniel 24th worst kick this season is wild.

 

[Scott Tracy]

Its funny, for whatever reason I haven't been to any game vs North since 2021 when Bruce kicked 10.
For the past couple of years i've felt for them, but after seeing their supporters in action today I feel absolutly nothing for them. For a side thats only won a few games out of 50 or whatever, their fans are crazy.

 

[CarnTheScray]

That was the most boring game I’ve ever attended. At least we got the post bye yips out of the way (hopefully).

 

[Freshwater]

Yeah he gave West an absolute spray recently.
There's no doubt he makes good leads that aren't honoured, but he's in shocking form.
He's been poor all year.

Brendan Fevola used to engage in similar behaviour but he had the runs on the board. He was an absolute weapon when up and about . Richo too.

I don't like it when people call him lazy or uninterested, as my spider senses go tingly when it's often the indigenous boys who get called such adjectives . Gotta check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Don’t bring his indigenous into this. It would be paternalistic not to criticise him because of his ethnicity. Any indigenous player would want to be treated like anyone else. Marra is stinking it up at the moment and has basically all year. Tim English is getting the same level criticism and both seemed deserved. We get some players aren’t as talented, fans will never take lack of interest or intent. And if he’s criticising teammates demonstrably too it’s not a good look. You seem to be accusing some on here of some seriously bad intentions because of your ‘spider sense’

 

[Afro_dog]

The covert racism directed towards Jamarra on this forum is gross. Sure he was not his best today and he isn't the finished product but I don't think it justifies the vitriol on here from some posters.

 

[Doggy Dan]

I don't like it when people call him lazy or uninterested, as my spider senses go tingly when it's often the indigenous boys who get called such adjectives . Gotta check yourself before you wreck yourself.

This is such a shocking take. I saw Jamarra on several occasions standing flat-footed making no attempt to chase or apply pressure to opposition when the ball was in our offensive 50. You’re calling me racist for calling him out on that?

 

[BEaston]

Knew it wouldn’t take long for Clarkson to buy into their pathetic whiney victim complex culture.

well he did play there so I'm sure it was always there. Maybe papered over by having one of the greatest teams ever assembled at his disposal at the Hawks.

 

[BrisDog]

What a load of sh*t

 

[gangsta deluxe]

The covert racism directed towards Jamarra on this forum is gross. Sure he was not his best today and he isn't the finished product but I don't think it justifies the vitriol on here from some posters.

He didn’t play his best, I’m not sure there was any racist subtext there in any posts I could see?

There are plenty of contexts where implicit or even explicit racism is an issue, not sure a forum where all of us desperately want all of the players to succeed (let alone a number 1 pick) is one of them.

If it’s there you should call it out, I know I will.

 

[BEaston]

Jamarra was terrible today. His intensity is just not there.

Say it every week , but we can't keep carrying Gallagher if we're having a real ping at finals. Once we start playing better teams he'll get shown up more and more. I think he'll be a really good player, but he's just not ready yet. His inability to stick basic tackles is shocking.

Lobb in defence was great, and I liked Naughton up the ground.

Darcy was unlucky not to be paid a clear mark, and some arm chops/frontal contact I thought. The standard of umpiring today was very low - for both teams.

 

[dogwatch]

Caleb Daniel 24th worst kick this season is wild.

It is.

I wonder if it's because his instructions are to use his kicking skills and vision to clear the congestion and break opposition zones? That is, he may be routinely trying the high risk/high reward type kicks. If that's the case (I don't have any stats to say either way) then it's understandable his DE would be way down compared to someone who habitually does the easy chip kick sideways to a loose defender in the pocket.

Caleb looked pretty good in the VFL today. I don't know if it justifies a recall yet, and whether it would translate to the higher pace, higher intensity game at senior level but he's still got that vision.

 

[goodcop badcop]

The covert racism directed towards Jamarra on this forum is gross. Sure he was not his best today and he isn't the finished product but I don't think it justifies the vitriol on here from some posters.

Agree. How dare you all bag English for today as well and the crap that Vandermeer, Bramble, Lobb etc have got all year, you're all a bunch of racist bigots. Oh wait..

 

[Golden_6]

Jamarra was terrible today. His intensity is just not there.

Say it every week , but we can't keep carrying Gallagher if we're having a real ping at finals. Once we start playing better teams he'll get shown up more and more. I think he'll be a really good player, but he's just not ready yet. His inability to stick basic tackles is shocking.

Lobb in defence was great, and I liked Naughton up the ground.

Darcy was unlucky not to be paid a clear mark, and some arm chops/frontal contact I thought. The standard of umpiring today was very low - for both teams.

No reason Gallagher should be playing over someone like Garcia in the exact same role. Harmes too should be easily ahead of him next week.

 

[Martyn_30_]

I’ll take full credit for the Lobb to the backline move, it’s good to see Beveridge taking the feedback on board.


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[Cookie]

Watching Lobb today in a new role has made me think why English has never been given that defender responsibility.
Given that English is a terrible tap ruckman, I wonder why Sweet, who is a genuine tap ruckman, was never the #1 ruck role and English went back as as a key defender.
Missed opportunity.

 

[ScragCity]

The idea that we should reserve our criticism of indigenous players is more racist than anything else I've seen on here.

 

[Struggle]

Fingers crossed more genius coaches tag Treloar and let Bont run around without an opponent

 

[W W Biscuit]

The covert racism directed towards Jamarra on this forum is gross. Sure he was not his best today and he isn't the finished product but I don't think it justifies the vitriol on here from some poster

This is a seriously horrible and unnuanced interpretation of what is going on.

 

[charcoalchicken]

Watching Lobb today in a new role has made me think why English has never been given that defender responsibility.
Given that English is a terrible tap ruckman, I wonder why Sweet, who is a genuine tap ruckman, was never the #1 ruck role and English went back as as a key defender.
Missed opportunity.

Have you watched sweet play for port?? There is a reason he couldn’t get a game at the dogs (hint - he’s shite)