AFL Toast Win against Wet Toast

[fairbump_playon]

Lack of pressure makes it all feel a bit like the old days

Winning tough feels a bit “now” though

 

[SpeckieMcVeigh]

Very poor! We're clearly not a top 4 side let alone top 8. The cats will have their way with us again next week

That same team that lost by 10 goals to Carlton?

 

[SpeckieMcVeigh]

A bit of a mixture. On the positive side: Durham continues to show he is not just one of our very best, but among the comps leading mids. Jake S now consistently getting the bread and butter goals not just the odd spectacular one. J Caldwell again productive numbers. ThouhSam Draper was good, certainly did well enough we can give Goldstein a good break to refresh for the run home. Both Laverde and Heppell, who I confess not being a fan of, were very solid. Though I still get anxious when they have ball in hand. And of course Zach re.sins the constant reliable. Duursmaa and Jones also had good moments.
Redman and McGrath still a worry for mine. Andy is full of energy, but that disposal continually puts us in trouble, often from situations where we shouldn't be under pressure at all. Even when a scrubby kick isn't a direct turnover, it stops quick movement or puts the receiver under the pump.
The shallow forward 50 entries are too often not just easily nullified, but too often a platform for unpressured rebounds,either from virtually uncontested marks or total absence of crumbing pressure. Too often we just blame the kicker, when forwards don't present with hard leads or sit back on their heels.
Was a bit concerned that we seem to leak easy centre clearances .Need to address that against Dangerfield and Petracca

Danger will be suspended and Petracca is out for the season.

 

[raskolnikov]

Eagle supporters on the main board and their board thinking they were hard done by by the umpires.

 

[doug85]

Very poor! We're clearly not a top 4 side let alone top 8. The cats will have their way with us again next week

Cats are a very different team to 18 months ago. Hawkins is cooked, danger is in and out of the team through injury and there’s no selwood replacement. Stewart is ineffective now that he’s getting tagged.

I think we’ll beat the cats and if we don’t we shouldnt be in the 8.

 

[Mootsy]

Stringer kicked 5?! How come nobody mentioned this, lol(didn't watch the game).

 

[sacka]

Caldwell what a beast, easily best on today imo, got in and under when needed, got it in the outside and nullified Yeo at times, had more tackles than half the side combined, Was everywhere.

Durham, wow I was bit sceptical in his early days but this guys thirst to be first to the contest is just unreal, he's played just over 50 games now and I can't wait to see how good he can get.

Laverde's second half, every time he went near it I just felt comfortable he was going to mark it, and how many times has that been said about the bloke? Good game from him and hopefully he can continue that into the second half of the season.


There seems to be a bit of thought we should of smashed them today, they set up well behind the ball today, their mids were defensively better than they have been for most games this year and their forward line started to look a lot like it should. In the end we did what we needed to do and it is harder playing against a ream that has a few extra players on the field (****ing Nicholls) and the comp has shown when you think it's an easy win this year it has come back and bitten the ass.

 

[FootyGuru]

Cats are a very different team to 18 months ago. Hawkins is cooked, danger is in and out of the team through injury and there’s no selwood replacement. Stewart is ineffective now that he’s getting tagged.

I think we’ll beat the cats and if we don’t we shouldnt be in the 8.

Next weeks selection is going to be very interesting. Scott said he would select goldy and Draper for next week in the presser, but I don’t entirely believe him. Cats went in with only sdk as their ruck, and we are going to play both our guys?

The forward half is also interesting, Gresham has to play if available. We had forwards flying against each other all game and not enough presence at ground level. 2mp is a natural chf to me, but if we are going to play 2 rucks surely one of caddy/jones or 2mp has to miss out for Gresham. I wonder if Scott wants to try, two rucks and the rest more mobile Fwds(no 2mp).

Duursma allows much more flexibility inside the team, and it’s good to see him back.

I’d also like to see setterfeild in the side. A bit of hard nosed tackling and size in the midfield is needed.

 

[Squeaky]

I don’t think it was very consistent.

Consistently deplorable

 

[Blind Turn]

Consistently deplorable

Against Essendon

 

[MightyDon]

Thank frack Harley Reid wasn’t playing today, though winning when papering over the cracks ain’t great long term

 

[Beerfish]

Thank frack Harley Reid wasn’t playing today, though winning when papering over the cracks ain’t great long term

Yep. Because without Harley, The West Coast Harley's are just The West Coast.

 

[boncer34]

Good win. Enjoyable game for the most part.

 

[Cold Sober]

A bit of a mixture. On the positive side: Durham continues to show he is not just one of our very best, but among the comps leading mids. Jake S now consistently getting the bread and butter goals not just the odd spectacular one. J Caldwell again productive numbers. ThouhSam Draper was good, certainly did well enough we can give Goldstein a good break to refresh for the run home. Both Laverde and Heppell, who I confess not being a fan of, were very solid. Though I still get anxious when they have ball in hand. And of course Zach re.sins the constant reliable. Duursmaa and Jones also had good moments.
Redman and McGrath still a worry for mine. Andy is full of energy, but that disposal continually puts us in trouble, often from situations where we shouldn't be under pressure at all. Even when a scrubby kick isn't a direct turnover, it stops quick movement or puts the receiver under the pump.
The shallow forward 50 entries are too often not just easily nullified, but too often a platform for unpressured rebounds,either from virtually uncontested marks or total absence of crumbing pressure. Too often we just blame the kicker, when forwards don't present with hard leads or sit back on their heels.
Was a bit concerned that we seem to leak easy centre clearances .Need to address that against Dangerfield and Petracca

Spot on.

 

[ghostdog]

Pies game the only one I’m not expecting to win.

I'm confident, as long as we're commited. I think we revel in taking on the Pies. We'll lift.
Looks like they should have Mihocek and De Goey. We'll have Ridley looking for an improved game after a dirty day today, and a hungry Durham looking for DeGoey.

Collingwood injury list​

Name	Injury	Estimated Return
Aiden Begg	Knee	2025
Josh Carmichael	Concussion	TBC
Mason Cox	Leg/concussion	3-5 weeks
Jordan De Goey	Abdomen	1 week
Jamie Elliott	Vascular	4-6 weeks
Ned Long	Calf	1 week
Daniel McStay	Knee	TBC
Brody Mihocek	Hamstring	1 week
Tom Mitchell	Foot	4-6 weeks
Scott Pendlebury	Bicep	1-2 weeks
Joe Richards	Foot	1-2 weeks
Oscar Steene	Toe	4-6 weeks

• After their bye this weekend, Collingwood should get De Goey and Mihocek back

Updated: June 19

 

[ghostdog]

Hyperextended knee but will need a scan I reckon

He ran down that wing like it was a merely a scratch though.

 

[Don_Gia]

Frustrating game for the most part…couldn’t shake them until half way through the last quarter…I was just waiting for Dons to put the foot down but it didn’t really happen…

Need to lower the eyes next week…we got torched by Barrass (and Gov to some extent) but still won the game.

We haven’t dropped a game we should have won yet (?) and that is an improvement on previous years…we also kept in front today even though they pushed us multiple times…we’ve built some grit which is great to see.

The fact we on here are getting frustrated on the margins we should win by as opposed to having fear about losing to a lower team (like in previous years) proves we have turned the corner and we have heaps more confidence in this team…

No one believes we are the third best team atm but as long as evidence (the ladder) suggests we are I’m content with that for now…

 

[yodellinhank]

Eagle supporters on the main board and their board thinking they were hard done by by the umpires.

It was pretty cruel of the umpires to give them some hope.

 

[bombreys]

A bit of a mixture. On the positive side: Durham continues to show he is not just one of our very best, but among the comps leading mids. Jake S now consistently getting the bread and butter goals not just the odd spectacular one. J Caldwell again productive numbers. ThouhSam Draper was good, certainly did well enough we can give Goldstein a good break to refresh for the run home. Both Laverde and Heppell, who I confess not being a fan of, were very solid. Though I still get anxious when they have ball in hand. And of course Zach re.sins the constant reliable. Duursmaa and Jones also had good moments.
Redman and McGrath still a worry for mine. Andy is full of energy, but that disposal continually puts us in trouble, often from situations where we shouldn't be under pressure at all. Even when a scrubby kick isn't a direct turnover, it stops quick movement or puts the receiver under the pump.
The shallow forward 50 entries are too often not just easily nullified, but too often a platform for unpressured rebounds,either from virtually uncontested marks or total absence of crumbing pressure. Too often we just blame the kicker, when forwards don't present with hard leads or sit back on their heels.
Was a bit concerned that we seem to leak easy centre clearances .Need to address that against Dangerfield and Petracca

I love the man, but is Goldy 100% in our best side? I am not so sure

 

[windyhill]

Was Cox injured or a tactical?

He was sore big Coxy, looked painful.

 

[mike ross]

Caddy's first goal was special stuff

 

[Old Campaigner]

I'm confident, as long as we're commited. I think we revel in taking on the Pies. We'll lift.
Looks like they should have Mihocek and De Goey. We'll have Ridley looking for an improved game after a dirty day today, and a hungry Durham looking for DeGoey.

Collingwood injury list​

Name	Injury	Estimated Return
Aiden Begg	Knee	2025
Josh Carmichael	Concussion	TBC
Mason Cox	Leg/concussion	3-5 weeks
Jordan De Goey	Abdomen	1 week
Jamie Elliott	Vascular	4-6 weeks
Ned Long	Calf	1 week
Daniel McStay	Knee	TBC
Brody Mihocek	Hamstring	1 week
Tom Mitchell	Foot	4-6 weeks
Scott Pendlebury	Bicep	1-2 weeks
Joe Richards	Foot	1-2 weeks
Oscar Steene	Toe	4-6 weeks

• After their bye this weekend, Collingwood should get De Goey and Mihocek back

Updated: June 19

I don't think there's anything to be gained from potentially beating up on an injury ravaged side. All it does is boost our ladder position and feed into unrealistic assessments of our side

 

[Yoda_]

This has felt like a typical Essendon win like we have seen for the best part of two decades. Wins against lowly ranked sides when, if we want to be taken seriously, should be smacking them.

Lets be honest for a second, this West Coast side bar a few older stars are a shit show. Yeo, Barass, McGovern, Darling are closer to the end than the start. Allen is a star but that is it imho.

We killed it ourselves. Played down to there level and that is what bemuses me the most. We will come out and take it up to Geelong or get smacked like we do every other time we play Catters.

urn up and lose by a couple of goals to the Cats and these wins will be put in the archives, turn up and lose by 10 goals and these wins get highlighted as "typical Essendon"

 

[Call Me Cake]

This has felt like a typical Essendon win like we have seen for the best part of two decades. Wins against lowly ranked sides when, if we want to be taken seriously, should be smacking them.

You're stretching. We're a developing side who aren't at the stage where we should be talking "what margin?", we are not there yet.

30 points is better than a nailbiter or typically dropping it as we usually would (yes, past Essendon would drop expected wins let alone talking about smashings). We are not the type of club to be scoffing at 5-goal comfortable wins.

Collingwood comes off a flag and finds themselves 50 points down against Norf, having to come back and win it by a point, and everyone praises them because of "pulling their pants up" at the crucial time of the match. If they were neck-on-neck the entire match and found themselves 1 point ahead at the final siren people would be calling them pretenders, yet even that would be a stretch in the context of the season and how tight it is.

Anyone can perform on their day, but sides on the right track find a way to not only outlast them in terms of all quarters, but to also get the job done. That seems to be something a lot of people forget. There's lowly sides having their day, and then there's actually getting the W out of them rather than dropping them. So far, we haven't dropped many against the teams we were predicted before the season to finish below than, which is a positive in itself considering the stage of where we're at.

Think you need to temper your expectations for this team and be a little more realistic.

 

[ghostdog]

I don't think there's anything to be gained from potentially beating up on an injury ravaged side. All it does is boost our ladder position and feed into unrealistic assessments of our side

Each to their own.
It makes me feel good.