Autopsy 2 point loss vs the Lions!

[lazy77]

Why are we focused purely on the losses? Like I said Brisbane got over a crippled Swans at home by 2 but they are this scary team?

But yeah ok we lost to Stkilda and Richmond. We also beat Carlton, Fremantle in perth, Geelong, GWS twice , Melbourne , Collingwood both fit at the time, Essendon, etc etc So why do we ignore all that?

Also why are we extra glum on the injuries?

You have effectively rubbed Rampe Papley and Mcinnerney out for 11 weeks each? Seems unlikely?

You can feel how you want about the loss don't get me wrong. Maybe we will fall to
shit but there is more evidence we are ok here.

In my experience, a knee injury that requires a brace for two weeks isn't a short term thing. Even if he somehow gets himself ready for the finals, surely it will be too big a risk to play him.

Rampe was out for ages the last time he injured a calf. Papley couldn't put any weight on the ankle. That's usually a bad sign.

We beat all those teams quite a while ago. I haven't seen any sign of that form being about to return. We've looked really average the last month. North Melbourne gave us a reprieve through being so shit, but otherwise it just hasn't been good enough.

 

[melbournehammer]

He has been rank ordinary in the 2s the last 2 weeks. Time to think about giving Magor a try. Third highest rated player.

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I’ve liked magor in the two matches I’ve seen. Seemed to use it well

 

[The King!]

In my experience, a knee injury that requires a brace for two weeks isn't a short term thing. Even if he somehow gets himself ready for the finals, surely it will be too big a risk to play him.

Rampe was out for ages the last time he injured a calf. Papley couldn't put any weight on the ankle. That's usually a bad sign.

We beat all those teams quite a while ago. I haven't seen any sign of that form being about to return. We've looked really average the last month. North Melbourne gave us a reprieve through being so shit, but otherwise it just hasn't been good enough.

PCLs are normally 2 - 6 weeks , If he can get back in a month why wouldn't he play?

Rampe and Papley we don't know yet.

Oh well maybe you are right, let's shut it down and play for draft picks

 

[Olian]

In my experience, a knee injury that requires a brace for two weeks isn't a short term thing. Even if he somehow gets himself ready for the finals, surely it will be too big a risk to play him.

Rampe was out for ages the last time he injured a calf. Papley couldn't put any weight on the ankle. That's usually a bad sign.

We beat all those teams quite a while ago. I haven't seen any sign of that form being about to return. We've looked really average the last month. North Melbourne gave us a reprieve through being so shit, but otherwise it just hasn't been good enough.

Rampe missed 2 games last year with a calf complaint. That was a low grade calf injury.

 

[lazy77]

Rampe missed 2 games last year with a calf complaint. That was a low grade calf injury.

I think that was earlier this year. I'm pretty sure he missed a good chunk of last year with something or other. I thought it was a calf, but it may have been a hamstring.

 

[Donza]

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I'm going to grab a toastie.

See you at 22 pages

 

[Olian]

I think that was earlier this year. I'm pretty sure he missed a good chunk of last year with something or other. I thought it was a calf, but it may have been a hamstring.

Hamstring was early in the 2023 season where he missed 4/5 weeks.
Calf was near the end of the season where he missed a couple.

History repeats again this year with hamstring (Tigers game) and calf issues. Age is probably catching up with him.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

17 pages deep.


I'm going to grab a toastie.

See you at 22 pages

I declare toasty talk to fill in those 5 pages

 

[mcs095]

If they are out they are out anyway.

Just means guys get a chance, just don't want to lose players mid game- especially not multiple

Yep absolutely - much easier to have 23 to choose from on the day, and not 21 as we did for most of today.

Even with our missing blokes, something remotely near our best would be good enough to beat the fairypups. Just need to turn up early and get stuck in, and not give away another damn 4 or 5 early goals.

 

[lazy77]

PCLa are normally 2 - 6 weeks , If he can get back in a month why wouldn't he play?

Rampe and Papley we don't know yet.

Oh well maybe you are right, let's shut it down and play for draft picks

It doesn't look like he'll be back in a month. He may be back in 6-7 weeks, by which time he'll be rusty af and in no condition to play a final.

But it's cool. We could just about cover for McInnerney, especially when Rowbottom comes back. Papley and Rampe present bigger challenges. We don't have anyone to naturally slot into Rampe's position. Fox may do at a pinch, but it's risky. Francis could come in, but is a clear downgrade. And you can't really replace Papley, especially if Hayward is hobbled as well. It's a worry.

And I'm not saying to shut anything down. I'm complaining because we've been a bit rubbish just lately. Too many excuses, not enough winning.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

It doesn't look like he'll be back in a month. He may be back in 6-7 weeks, by which time he'll be rusty af and in no condition to play a final.

But it's cool. We could just about cover for McInnerney, especially when Rowbottom comes back. Papley and Rampe present bigger challenges. We don't have anyone to naturally slot into Rampe's position. Fox may do at a pinch, but it's risky. Francis could come in, but is a clear downgrade. And you can't really replace Papley, especially if Hayward is hobbled as well. It's a worry.

And I'm not saying to shut anything down. I'm complaining because we've been a bit rubbish just lately. Too many excuses, not enough winning.

Every team has gone through shit patches literally a kick away from having a perfect season to date.

I have been suggesting we shore up the defence for a long time now we just dont seem to make it a priority and hope McCartin/Rampe get through the year.

 

[The King!]

It doesn't look like he'll be back in a month. He may be back in 6-7 weeks, by which time he'll be rusty af and in no condition to play a final.

But it's cool. We could just about cover for McInnerney, especially when Rowbottom comes back. Papley and Rampe present bigger challenges. We don't have anyone to naturally slot into Rampe's position. Fox may do at a pinch, but it's risky. Francis could come in, but is a clear downgrade. And you can't really replace Papley, especially if Hayward is hobbled as well. It's a worry.

And I'm not saying to shut anything down. I'm complaining because we've been a bit rubbish just lately. Too many excuses, not enough winning.

winning fixes all mate

 

[Ticky009]

In my experience, a knee injury that requires a brace for two weeks isn't a short term thing. Even if he somehow gets himself ready for the finals, surely it will be too big a risk to play him.

Rampe was out for ages the last time he injured a calf. Papley couldn't put any weight on the ankle. That's usually a bad sign.

We beat all those teams quite a while ago. I haven't seen any sign of that form being about to return. We've looked really average the last month. North Melbourne gave us a reprieve through being so shit, but otherwise it just hasn't been good enough.

Wish you'd post this much when we win. Then we never see you.

 

[Nool Carpenna]

I think that was earlier this year. I'm pretty sure he missed a good chunk of last year with something or other. I thought it was a calf, but it may have been a hamstring.

He missed 10 weeks with a neck injury early in '23 but I'm sure necks and calves are quite similar. Might as well euthanise him already.

 

[The King!]

Francis Hamling and Reid can all hold their own in defence , we have depth .

 

[Ticky009]

Break out game.

I hope so, we might be counting on him to play his role over the month or so. I'm not expecting him to win us games, but when we get beset by injury its an opportunity for players like Corey to do what we need them to do.

 

[lazy77]

Wish you'd post this much when we win. Then we never see you.

That 's not true. I've posted here all season. If you were looking, you would have seen me.

I probably do post more when we lose, but losses give you so much more to discuss. There's only so many ways to say "well done boys" after a win. Losing autopsies are always more lively.

 

[kickthething]

Francis Hamling and Reid can all hold their own in defence , we have depth .

And if they can master the push in the back as Andrew’s has done, we will be cherry ripe

 

[Nuggetz]

Starts are an issue but soo proud of that effort. Imo most teams would've been smashed with similar outs but we nearly won it!

Kudo to Hayward for playing with an injury for 3/4 of the game. He epitomised the bloods spirit today. The team should be proud of that performance.

 

[clivus]

The worry with Florent is we can't afford both him and Blakey to be excessive turnover kings, which they both are at the moment. One or the other at any given time is fine - but when they are both in stinky decision mode, it hurts a lot. Blakey just needs to tone down the 'ultra risk' setting to 'calculated risk' and Ollie just needs to focus more on good decision making.

Florent needs to be dropped. What’s with defenders dragging the ball in and being caught holding the ball? The only situation when it’s warranted is if you’re outnumbered or milking the clock. He just let the lions get an easy goal. Poor skills and poor IQ.

 

[clivus]

It is odd, he doesn't even do much wrong with it, but if he is all over the ground getting it, maybe others aren't working hard ?

Was he the one that kicked the ball in the final minute Walter the lions behind? Kicked it to lions advantage and resulted in lions mark.
He doesn’t do much remarkable even when he is playing well. Basically a filler player in my eyes.

 

[McRobie]

Florent won’t hit a target better in the twos.
No he just needs to play through it as he is one of our leaders down back.

It’s not for him it’s for the team. He’s killing us.

 

[RubbaDuck]

A lot depends from hereon on the injury prognoses for McInerney and Papley (and to a lesser extent Hayward). I’m assuming Rampe’s is just a calf that will take a few weeks.

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Gawd I hate autocorrect that insists on inserting unwanted apostrophes…

You seem to have ended up with the right amount of apostrophes. I'd be more concerned that autocorrect let you write "hereon on" (hereon in).

 

[RubbaDuck]

Robbie Fox is a good AFL player.

But it seems whenever he’s heavily featured in POTY votes, it means we’ve lost.

Suggests he's very consistent, which he is.

Robbie is the sort of player who will carry us most of the way to a win, with our stars needing to shine brightly to take us that last mile

 

[Banyo Bloods]

So which player is out on Thursday that nobody has any idea was injured ?

Usually the pattern once our injuries start

Pessimism 101