2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Yawkey way]

Not lousy because there are always better players it's just not got much standout talent to me. Nearly everyone has at least one question mark.

I think this will be a super draft myself and the nay sayers will be left with egg on their faces.

 

[stavro#4]

Maybe it's because we have two potential high picks but I reckon it's a stressful front end. I really wouldn't want to be selecting inside the first 8 picks.

So your knocking this draft because you are scared we might blow the picks like Clark and Coffield?

 

[StCicatriz]

somethings not right with brayshaw this year and last... body language is all off. he's one i think can go to another level if he's in a happy environment.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Could be 70 picks on this draft, it’s deep are there’s some real quality that runs deep. Imo it just lacks a stand out like Reid, that makes it sound like a lousy top end but it’s actually the reverse imo.

Yeah and I feel like there is a top group regardless of the “it’s very even”. I’d be very keen to make sure those picks are in the top 6 or 7

 

[gringo2011]

So your knocking this draft because you are scared we might blow the picks like Clark and Coffield?

Nah just don't think there are that many stand out players around where our pick will fall unless one slides. Hopefully an O'Sullivan type drops down to us but he has injury and poor champs form etc. Nearly all of them have at least one question mark. Just tempering why maybe I'm not vibing on it when others are.

 

[gringo2011]

I think this will be a super draft myself and the nay sayers will be left with egg on their faces.

I reckon 2017 was probably a super draft but had an inconsistent top 10 but incredible amounts of talent through it. That's why I compare them. Reckon there could be about 4 or 5 of the top 10 that turn out GOPs or busts easily. Really confident that a few guns will go between about pick 12 and 30 and possibly some of the absolute cream.

 

[noobermensch]

Maybe it's because we have two potential high picks but I reckon it's a stressful front end. I really wouldn't want to be selecting inside the first 8 picks.

I can see that. On the other hand though, you have a bunch of similarly elite talents with different points of difference, so picking twice you get to choose the traits you prefer and potentially pick two guys that complement each other.

 

[gubby88]

You are lucky you're from Traralgon or I'd call you a campaigner.

i thought we already were, scorwell and moei -ites seem to think we are....

need to lift our game hahaha

 

[gubby88]

somethings not right with brayshaw this year and last... body language is all off. he's one i think can go to another level if he's in a happy environment.

sounds like he misses Ross....

future third i reckon should quell his separation anxiety

 

[Joffaboy]

Yeah and I feel like there is a top group regardless of the “it’s very even”. I’d be very keen to make sure those picks are in the top 6 or 7

That's where maybe splitting out 5 or 6 to 12 and 16 from Freo ( or something like that)
Will throw up players like Berry, Longford, Whitlock, Lindsay, Travaglia and Ivisic, and they are only the Vic sliders etc.

If we got say Draper, then Reid and Whitlock ( or a combo some others not considered top 10), that would be a pretty good haul.

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[littlecreatures]

somethings not right with brayshaw this year and last... body language is all off. he's one i think can go to another level if he's in a happy environment.

It’s an interesting one to monitor with Serong becoming their man in the middle, Young getting significant mid minutes, and Fyfe finding his way back in there.

Seems like he’s fallen down to the pecking order just slightly, and the other potential factor to unsettle him could be decision making around long term captaincy.

 

[Yawkey way]

I reckon 2017 was probably a super draft but had an inconsistent top 10 but incredible amounts of talent through it. That's why I compare them. Reckon there could be about 4 or 5 of the top 10 that turn out GOPs or busts easily. Really confident that a few guns will go between about pick 12 and 30 and possibly some of the absolute cream.

I’ve been watching this for a long time gringo and I’m very impressed by this draft from top to bottom.

 

[Ads734]

IMO after following the draft closely for 13 years.

Our best picks first rd over the last decade have been the last three years. In those years we had

Pick - 11 NAS (superstar pick)
Pick 10 -Pou (will be superstar pick)
Pick 18 - Wilson

Wilkie Sharman Sincs and Ro all rookies.

Great picks are overrated. Look at Swans, Cats, Tigers etc.

It’s getting great players with other picks that is the game changer.

 

[gringo2011]

I’ve been watching this for a long time gringo and I’m very impressed by this draft from top to bottom.

I have always followed it too, probably not as close as you. This year we get much more online access to full matches. I reckon possibly over exposure makes it easier to mark players down. When you see mostly highlight reels it makes everyone look elite. Still not sold on the front end though. I reckon there will be Clark and Coffields in this one. Hopefully we don’t get them.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I have always followed it too, probably not as close as you. This year we get much more online access to full matches. I reckon possibly over exposure makes it easier to mark players down. When you see mostly highlight reels it makes everyone look elite. Still not sold on the front end though. I reckon there will be Clark and Coffields in this one. Hopefully we don’t get them.

I think the recruiting science is getting better every year with less and less complete fails at the top end.
All clubs have finally caught on how critical it is to the futures and have qualified staff making the decisions. I also imagine as an industry most of the time they come to an industry consensus about where a kid should be rated eg Reid @ 1, Walter @ 2, McKercher @ 3 etc. Obviously that gets compromised by the clubs with their own agendas, but generally there are very few surprises in the current day top 20 drafts range wise.

 

[Diehard Saint]

That's where maybe splitting out 5 or 6 to 12 and 16 from Freo ( or something like that)
Will throw up players like Berry, Longford, Whitlock, Lindsay, Travaglia and Ivisic, and they are only the Vic sliders etc.

If we got say Draper, then Reid and Whitlock ( or a combo some others not considered top 10), that would be a pretty good haul.

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That’s why Battle not making his decision is pretty frustrating.
What you’re suggesting sounds like a no-brainer…if we get the compo pick.
With only one pick, however, not sure I’d be splitting it.

Guess the recruiters and list managers will be covering all bases.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Lol Liz Hurley could be available at pick 5 and she would be too old and elbows might be too pointy for some.

Everyone has a 'flaw' and isn't perfect in absolutely everything

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Lol Liz Hurley could be available at pick 5 and she would be too old and elbows might be too pointy for some.

Everyone has a 'flaw' and isn't perfect in absolutely everything

Well those elbows are pretty boney let's face it.

Fat people need lovin' too!

 

[_Maximus_12]

No pick splitting for me.

There’s suggestions that any of the top 7 players could make a case for pick one… if so, I want two of those (provided we get a first for Battle). We need elite young talent and that’s where the a graders generally coming from.

 

[stavro#4]

No pick splitting for me.

There’s suggestions that any of the top 7 players could make a case for pick one… if so, I want two of those (provided we get a first for Battle). We need elite young talent and that’s where the a graders generally coming from.

If we had picks 5+6.

I’m only willing to go back as far as GC first.

Outside of that. Trade in with our future first or bundle up picks and target Carlton’s first.

 

[joydivision22]

no splitting for me until we’re on the clock and we threaten GC with a bid on Lombard, they give us 6 & 20 for 5. Freo won’t be moved from their pick, hoping they bid on Kako super early.

 

[beside the seaside]

no splitting for me until we’re on the clock and we threaten GC with a bid on Lombard, they give us 6 & 20 for 5. Freo won’t be moved from their pick, hoping they bid on Kako super early.

If we had two picks then that's the kind of move you'd like to see. Go back a spot for a decent pick, like what we did with GWS last year.

 

[11men1cup]

If any 2 of Smith, Draper or Lalor are still available at 5&6, I'd love to pick 2 of those.

Should 2 if them be taken, I'd rather us take the punt in splitting 6 for 2 picks in the 10s, (freos 10+17 for example)

The talent is pretty even throughout, there will be a few diamonds who will slide.

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[Anythings_sipposible]

no splitting for me until we’re on the clock and we threaten GC with a bid on Lombard, they give us 6 & 20 for 5. Freo won’t be moved from their pick, hoping they bid on Kako super early.

GC will almost certainly trade out of the early first round before Draft Night, or they will bundle their picks to go into the top 3. North makes the most sense @ 3 as you'd think that's the earliest possible position someone would bid.

That being said, I wonder if they'd be interested in trading their current first rounder ( 6 currently) for our future first (you'd assume a pick between 4-10). Maybe this would require a swap of our 2nd for their 3rd to give them a points boost this year, but it does allow them to keep their first round presence going until next year. It's kind of similar to what OKC does in the NBA; always have capital so you can always move up or down depending on needs

 

[gringo2011]

I think the recruiting science is getting better every year with less and less complete fails at the top end.
All clubs have finally caught on how critical it is to the futures and have qualified staff making the decisions. I also imagine as an industry most of the time they come to an industry consensus about where a kid should be rated eg Reid @ 1, Walter @ 2, McKercher @ 3 etc. Obviously that gets compromised by the clubs with their own agendas, but generally there are very few surprises in the current day top 20 drafts range wise.

It is and isn't. There are always guys that look good that for whatever reason don't make it. Jaiden Stephenson looked elite and started his career that way. Now he's a GOP.

Dylan Stephens looked a good chance of being a gun outside mid but he isn't showing much now. Looks shit and at a second club. Pick 5.

McAsey the same, looked a blue chip KP and just didn't have it in him. Clark and Coff were injury busts but also just not really above average players. Some drafts are just not as good as well. In a star studded draft it's hard to find a bad player, in a thin one you need your eyes open.