List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[JDWCE]

And what's wrong with that. I would kill for a parish type as part of our midfield mix.

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Never said there was anything wrong with it. We could certainly use an accumulator type

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Trade rumour guy on twitter.

TRADE RUMOUR
Riley Garcia who is out of contract this year is to have toured Geelong facilities which has resulted in bevo banishing him to the VFL and may not be seen at AFL level for the rest of the year. @tommorris32 @SamFaff @RalphyHeraldSun @FootyonNine

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[eaglevision]

Trade rumour guy on twitter.

TRADE RUMOUR
Riley Garcia who is out of contract this year is to have toured Geelong facilities which has resulted in bevo banishing him to the VFL and may not be seen at AFL level for the rest of the year. @tommorris32 @SamFaff @RalphyHeraldSun @FootyonNine

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Old news!

 

[footy411]

Let's be very clear on one point though. You can't diminish Smith's output yesterday whilst still rating Draper's SANFL form. Either Smith's performance is impressive or, if not, neither is Draper's.
Smith has outperformed Draper so far at every single level this year.
That doesn't mean that he'll be the better player, however, there must be consistency with how we analyse the output from these prospects.

You’ve got to be joking… 31 and 3 tackles at 30% efficiency is NOT out performing 25 disposals 10.5 tackles 7 clearance average over his SANFL games. Get a grip mate

 

[bzparkes]

You’ve got to be joking… 31 and 3 tackles at 30% efficiency is NOT out performing 25 disposals 10.5 tackles 7 clearance average over his SANFL games. Get a grip mate

Has Draper played in a white squall yet?

 

[footy411]

Has Draper played in a white squall yet?

Two of Draper’s games have been wet? Not a valid argument. Smith doesn’t impact the game. Didn’t lay a single tackle against country in the champs game and his efficiency was garbage at VFL level

 

[eaglevision]

Two of Draper’s games have been wet? Not a valid argument. Smith doesn’t impact the game. Didn’t lay a single tackle against country in the champs game and his efficiency was garbage at VFL level

Where have you got the two of them ranked?

 

[bzparkes]

Two of Draper’s games have been wet? Not a valid argument. Smith doesn’t impact the game. Didn’t lay a single tackle against country in the champs game and his efficiency was garbage at VFL level

I think Draper's a better prospect but playing in the 'wet' vs playing in a cyclone aren't really the same thing.

Smith's biggest knock is his size. In such a contested game he appeared to have no issues.

 

[footy411]

I think Draper's a better prospect but playing in the 'wet' vs playing in a cyclone aren't really the same thing.

Smith's biggest knock is his size. In such a contested game he appeared to have no issues.

I’d love to see what % of his possessions are contested. 19 of 27 disposals being contested for draper tell a story

 

[dinnaz]

Let's be very clear on one point though. You can't diminish Smith's output yesterday whilst still rating Draper's SANFL form. Either Smith's performance is impressive or, if not, neither is Draper's.
Smith has outperformed Draper so far at every single level this year.
That doesn't mean that he'll be the better player, however, there must be consistency with how we analyse the output from these prospects.

I don't rate Drapers form at all. Its good to see, but even with injury has never been top 5 material.
Smith has outperformed Draper at every opportunity and at every level. In 99% of cases means that he will end up the better player.

 

[random260]

You’ve got to be joking… 31 and 3 tackles at 30% efficiency is NOT out performing 25 disposals 10.5 tackles 7 clearance average over his SANFL games. Get a grip mate

Look they are both good. But according to your board (or some other board) VFL seniors is better then SANFL seniors

I don't rate Drapers form at all. Its good to see, but even with injury has never been top 5 material.
Smith has outperformed Draper at every opportunity and at every level. In 99% of cases means that he will end up the better player.

Both Jagga and Sid draper are completely different play styles. Jagga 31 possssion against men does not shit on Sid draper 27 possesion against men.

The takeaway is they are very likely to succeed in AFL. If you want to shit on someone it's Smillie and Lalor who haven't played against men yet.

 

[footy411]

Where have you got the two of them ranked?

The top 10 is so even and depends on the teams preferences. I think Jagga smith talent wise is lower than draper but will get picked higher given Richmond’s preference of him.

 

[garlic munchers]

Pick 2 for 8 and 11 is similar to what we did in the past.

F1 2025 (8-18) and Garcia for barrass is fair for us if it's 8 and favours dogs the higher up the ladder.

Overall though if your the dogs you've lost smith English Garcia and F1 and gained pick 2 and Barrass

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Just can’t see any realistic scenarios where we give up any of our next 3 1st rounders given they will top 3 picks.

Apart from Reid (and an aging Yeo and Ryan) we have a list that makes vanilla taste like a Habanero Chilli and top 3 gives us the best chance of finding stars.

 

[southcoast]

Isn’t Draper the next big thing?

I have NFI but just trying to get Crows excited so they come at us with a pick swap so our re-build is hastened.


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[bzparkes]

I’d love to see what % of his possessions are contested. 19 of 27 disposals being contested for draper tell a story

Not all 'contested' balls are the same.

 

[eaglevision]

The top 10 is so even and depends on the teams preferences. I think Jagga smith talent wise is lower than draper but will get picked higher given Richmond’s preference of him.

I think North and Richmond would prefer both FOS and Smillie and possibly even Trainor to either of them. Which would (currently) bring WCE then Saints into it. WCE would more likely take Draper but Saints Jagga.

 

[shoutsatclouds]

Jagga reminds me of a young Trent Cotchin

He’s a sniping khent?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I think North and Richmond would prefer both FOS and Smillie and possibly even Trainor to either of them. Which would (currently) bring WCE then Saints into it. WCE would more likely take Draper but Saints Jagga.

My preference is Draper or Lalor with our first selection and then we need another first rounder to get trevaglia.

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[random260]

My guy Sid draper 23 posseson 1 goal against men. He's so ready for big times.

Jagga if he continues his form of 27 possesion against men will be awesome.

Pick 2 is honestly the diamond pick and because of Jagga insane form pick 3 is also a diamond pick.

Pick 1 is not useful this draft

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Trade rumour guy on twitter.

TRADE RUMOUR
Riley Garcia who is out of contract this year is to have toured Geelong facilities which has resulted in bevo banishing him to the VFL and may not be seen at AFL level for the rest of the year. @tommorris32 @SamFaff @RalphyHeraldSun @FootyonNine

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While our recruiting staff have been sitting on their hands, no doubt.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Pick 1 is not useful this draft

Sure it is you get first choice . Anyone outside the top 3 would love it

 

[eaglevision]

My preference is Draper or Lalor with our first selection and then we need another first rounder to get trevaglia.

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I’m happy to base our draft strategy around getting Travaglia and Lindsay, they are the two we need the most IMO. If we retain a high selection FOS, Lalor and Draper would currently be my preferences.

 

[mitchzz]

Did Finn play this weekend? Keen to hear if he bounced back after that stinker

 

[LewyBroome]

Did Finn play this weekend? Keen to hear if he bounced back after that stinker

Wasn’t named for Oakleigh, not sure if played for VFL team

 

[Smotie2]

I'd put every player up for trade bait and see what offers we can get.

why not.

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We definitely need to look for offers on the likes of barrass and waterman.
We have a glut of forwards and defenders and need midfielders and ruckmen like nothing else.