List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[stallon]

Setterfield would add something and OOC so wouldn’t cost much. Would help straight away. Just gotta see why he’s been at 3 clubs and maybe a 4th.

Id ask about Setterfield. Hes not getting games at the bombers any time soon

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I know it's basically a meme at this point but maybe Dev is the best option to act as a foil for Harley/Hewett. He can do the scragging, blocking and even tagging work if we feel the need and should come dirt cheap at this point.

 

[eaglevision]

Not even as a salary dump? If the bombers want to make the jump to a premiership contender they need to build their midfield around Caldwell and Durham imo, and probably need 1 more A-grader

I dunno what the Bombers salary cap is like but they cant have that much space

I think their cap is actually in pretty good nick, there were a few reports on that when they were dealing for McKay. WCE_phil can probably shed more light. If they want to get him off the books I’m sure there would be plenty of Vic suitors who would pay a decent pick.

 

[stallon]

I know it's basically a meme at this point but maybe Dev is the best option to act as a foil for Harley/Hewett. He can do the scragging, blocking and even tagging work if we feel the need and should come dirt cheap at this point.

I think hed be ideal tbh. I did want him last year, but wasnt meant to be

 

[Elite Pete]

I think their cap is actually in pretty good nick, there were a few reports on that when they were dealing for McKay. WCE_phil can probably shed more light. If they want to get him off the books I’m sure there would be plenty of Vic suitors who would pay a decent pick.

Yeah media have always said they have a very health cap space. Mainly Cal (Dons supporter). They don’t need a salary dump.

 

[Hoskin300]

I think hed be ideal tbh. I did want him last year, but wasnt meant to be

It just makes no sense that you rule out trew but rate Robinson highly.

 

[Elite Pete]

I think hed be ideal tbh. I did want him last year, but wasnt meant to be

Could work out better, he took less money and the trade would be less now.

Plenty of options in the adding depth to CBA mids.

Now need to add elite kicking hbf with some run and drive.

 

[stallon]

It just makes no sense that you rule out trew but rate Robinson highly.

They are very different players

 

[FKASC]

I don’t agree, probably what we are looking for a year or 2.

Decent at Clearances, tackles, DEff and pressures when he doesn’t have it. Lacks spread but that’s what Kelly and Hewett should be for. Nice moneyball player imo

Yeah but these can be the Richard Taylor types that can clog up your list if you’re not careful. Would rather a 3rd-4th year player who has shown a bit.

 

[Elite Pete]

It just makes no sense that you rule out trew but rate Robinson highly.

Simmo cooked Trew who looked awesome in our win last year against the Dogs when he came on. Dropped in the last game.

Short a couple of inside mids this year in some games and still couldn’t get in.

 

[Elite Pete]

Yeah but these can be the Richard Taylor types that can clog up your list if you’re not careful. Would rather a 3rd-4th year player who has shown a bit.

Don’t disagree, you can’t bring them all in. We’ve been linked to a lot of this but we also have a lot of deadwood and would nearly come free. See how it plays out

 

[stallon]

Yeah but these can be the Richard Taylor types that can clog up your list if you’re not careful. Would rather a 3rd-4th year player who has shown a bit.

Setterfield is a fringe player who has been at 3 clubs so far. He would be cheap as chips.

Getting 2 of Setterfield, Garcia and DevRob would be big for our midfield.

Probably the biggest downside to Setterfield is he is only an inside mid, no second position.

If he can be best 22 for 2-3 years, or maybe more once Yeo and Kelly retire, he'd be an amazing get. Would allow us more flexibility with managing Kelly and Yeo too.

 

[TerryFilk]

Why not chuck Barnett in the ruck the last 5 games and throw him to the wolves.

Barnett ruck
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Because he can’t even keep up with WAFL rucks, I understand rucks take time but Harry Barnett has been absolutely awful so far, he was meant to be good around the ground and we haven’t seen that at all either.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Hopefully.

The new NGA rules are a gigantic leg up for WCE and Freo.

Watch them put a stop to it quickly once we start to benefit.

Excuse my ignorance but what's changed.

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[bzparkes]

Excuse my ignorance but what's changed.

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Can match at any time and WCE and Freo get the entire state between them, no zones, so if you can get them into your academy early enough, you can develop them and bring them straight into the AFL side.

This is for all clubs but it especially favours WA teams due to the very large zone and no real competition.

 

[JackOutback]

There’s no question we need to churn through a fair few players and we don’t have enough draft picks to replace them. I’m sure the club is aware that we need to generate picks and players. Free agency types like English are a good way (which frees us up to trade BWilliams for a late second/third. We should be replacing the likes of Trew and Edwards with any two of Garcia, Sheldrick or Voldemort, which would improve us immediately. Anyone with any trade value should be considered, we need more second and third round picks. Lot of work to do.

 

[DorothyG]

Can match at any time and WCE and Freo get the entire state between them, no zones, so if you can get them into your academy early enough, you can develop them and bring them straight into the AFL side.

This is for all clubs but it especially favours WA teams due to the very large zone and no real competition.

Sounds good in theory, but honestly in the last 5 years, who is an actual player that the club has developed into a out and out gun, or even shown signs of?

Our development pathways over the last couple of years are pathetic and embarrassing. If the above is true, then add Development Programs to the list of things needing and overhaul within the club.

Knowing WC the past few years, we might have a Diacos MkII in our NGA, but he will turn out to be the next Partington

 

[bzparkes]

Sounds good in theory, but honestly in the last 5 years, who is an actual player that the club has developed into a out and out gun, or even shown signs of?

Our development pathways over the last couple of years are pathetic and embarrassing. If the above is true, then add Development Programs to the list of things needing and overhaul within the club.

Knowing WC the past few years, we might have a Diacos MkII in our NGA, but he will turn out to be the next Partington

Yes but there was no incentive to develop anyone in the NGA before because we didn't have access to the elite talent, so why bother/

 

[Hoskin300]

They are very different players

What’s different about them? They are pretty similar

 

[InTheWings]

Can match at any time and WCE and Freo get the entire state between them, no zones, so if you can get them into your academy early enough, you can develop them and bring them straight into the AFL side.

This is for all clubs but it especially favours WA teams due to the very large zone and no real competition.

Have they done away with these zones from a few years ago? https://www.afl.com.au/draft/nga-clubacademies

 

[Barrybran]

Setterfield is a fringe player who has been at 3 clubs so far. He would be cheap as chips.

Getting 2 of Setterfield, Garcia and DevRob would be big for our midfield.

Probably the biggest downside to Setterfield is he is only an inside mid, no second position.

If he can be best 22 for 2-3 years, or maybe more once Yeo and Kelly retire, he'd be an amazing get. Would allow us more flexibility with managing Kelly and Yeo too.

Setterfield and Parish are not names I expected to come up but make sense for both clubs in a way. Takes a little pressure off the kids and allows to develop the kids in the second units and WAFL.

Yeo and Setterfield might not be the ideal centre square set up though.

 

[bzparkes]

Have they done away with these zones from a few years ago? https://www.afl.com.au/draft/nga-clubacademies


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Apparently over on the D&T board they were talking about WCE and Freo just sharing the state - no zones supposedly

 

[stallon]

What’s different about them? They are pretty similar

Yes they are both mids, very true.

Trew is more of an extractor, Dev is more of a defensive mid.
Dev can sit in another position and not be completely useless too. A huge + for Dev

 

[stallon]

Setterfield and Parish are not names I expected to come up but make sense for both clubs in a way. Takes a little pressure off the kids and allows to develop the kids in the second units and WAFL.

Yeo and Setterfield might not be the ideal centre square set up though.

I dont think it matters too much if its an ideal setup tbh. As long as we stop getting smashed in there its a win.

If it prolongs Yeos career by allowing him to do stints in the backline(maybe even play there full time), it also covers for the likes of JJ/Witho being delisted with an experienced player.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Have they done away with these zones from a few years ago? https://www.afl.com.au/draft/nga-clubacademies


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I hope this isn’t how it is… freo totally get the best of the lot with this rub.