List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  176cm

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  77kg

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  3star

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  6.9

  3star

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  5.4

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  2.8

  3star

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  2.9

  4star

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  1.4

  4star

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  12.7

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  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

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  M

  3.0

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  2.7

  4star

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  1.8

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  9.2

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  4.6

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[mitchzz]

Can Baker just sign a 1 year extension and come to us as a FA next year?

(Unlikely scenario, I know)

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I've always been a fan of a U21 (or something) comp. Drafted at 18 like now, play U21 for a couple of years, get a degree or a TAFE diploma or whatever as insurance if they don't make it, then onto the AFL.

Counterargument has always been players like Reid ready to impact at 18 etc. But I'm still a fan of the idea.

And state v state footy would fill the void of SOO as a lot of the players will be high picks in the following draft and be ready for an immediate impact.

I think the happy medium is limiting the number of under 20s your allowed on your list. The Reid’s, Rowells, Daicos always get drafted early and play young while other players will have time to get their body and mind right for AFL out of the spotlight.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

How long do you persist with a player? You can only keep them in the NGA for so long, and the rookie list is limited spots

Nah I mean as in outside the AFL environment

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Ralphy again saying Baker wants us, but it’ll come down to whether we split our first.

We better not split a top 3 pick on the premise of getting Liam Baker.

Of course a Richmond fan would conjure up this kind of scenario. In no reality is Baker worth splitting a top pick for, let alone trading away a pick in the teens for...while we're at it, Ralphy, why don't we sweeten the deal and add Harley Reid to the trade as well...f*ck me..

 

[ghostbat12]

Rhino spoke about him on hard ball gets. Said he spoke to Lawson and he said his heart wasn't in it when he was in our NGA

Typical west coast. Cannot develop heart in players.

Who are our heart coaches?

 

[Spod]

Another classic situation of a player wanting to come back to WA and the trade system suddenly being an auction where it doesn't matter which team the player prefers. Amazing how it never works like this when a player wants to go back to Vic. Baker would be a FA next year, an early second rounder might not be enough but it isn't so far off that we can't get something done.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

‘No direct correlation on outcome’: Are ruckmen ‘overrated’?

Stunning proof of ‘overrated’ AFL role as great exposes useless stat

www.foxsports.com.au

Rucks (and hit outs) just don't matter that much. Perhaps our mids could actually get to work.

teams that have won the hit-out count in 2024 have only a 49 per cent win rate, suggesting it’s a largely irrelevant stat for the outcome of a match.

So your saying that Tim English is back on the menu boys

 

[amazingjoshy]

So your saying that Tim English is back on the menu boys

If we could pay half of what he expects in salary I'd be all for it. At his price, no thanks

 

[ronpingwins]

Ralphy again saying Baker wants us, but it’ll come down to whether we split our first.

We better not split a top 3 pick on the premise of getting Liam Baker.

And of course Ralph is suggesting Bo Allan is the one we want all along, ie WA player A.

He also seems to say we were maybe indecisive about trading the pick last year?

Gut feel is we’re going to pull out of the Baker race. Ralph has been consistent but the only one suggesting we’re splitting a pick for him.

 

[Keys]

The prevailing assumption with Baker is that Fremantle will actually offer one of their R1 picks

Potentially, all of Fremantle, Port and Collingwood get no further than week 1 of finals so their lowest R1 pick might be 12

I doubt Fremantle are handing that over for Baker even with something coming back

So just because Fremantle have better picks doesn’t mean they’re going to hand them over easily, especially if Warner is their preferred target

We might also have the PSD as an option if Richmond climb above us on the ladder before the end of the season

 

[ronpingwins]

Your recruiting team has home interviews with both Langford and Hynes this weekend.

Interesting that it’s these 2 and apparently Smillie that we’ve done a home visit on. Suggests were actually looking for a bit more size in the midfield?

 

[CountryLad]

Interesting that it’s these 2 and apparently Smillie that we’ve done a home visit on. Suggests were actually looking for a bit more size in the midfield?

Possibly in our selection ranges aswell. Smillie and Langford are high on Cal’s rankings and Hynes potentially sits around our second.

 

[Barrybran]

Ralphy again saying Baker wants us, but it’ll come down to whether we split our first.

We better not split a top 3 pick on the premise of getting Liam Baker.

That's just Ralphy doing his usual 'what would work best for the Victorian club' schtick. It'll be 23/F2 unless we get a first back for a player. ie. a spare first without splitting whether we split pick 3 or not.

 

[ghostbat12]

That's just Ralphy doing his usual 'what would work best for the Victorian club' schtick. It'll be 23/F2 unless we get a first back for a player. ie. a spare first without splitting whether we split pick 3 or not.

Ralph report?

Based on his record, Baker will re-sign within a few weeks.

 

[Bender_]

Out-of-favour Dog on clubs' radar: AFL trade news

Is it time for a fresh start?

www.zerohanger.com

Carbine Chaos

 

[Godfather32]

Ralphy again saying Baker wants us, but it’ll come down to whether we split our first.

We better not split a top 3 pick on the premise of getting Liam Baker.

We'd better not do this.
I'd take Baker in a trade, Richmond can have their pick of BWilliams, Rotham, Darling or Sheed. Hell they can have all four if they want

 

[Elite Pete]

Ralphy again saying Baker wants us, but it’ll come down to whether we split our first.

We better not split a top 3 pick on the premise of getting Liam Baker.

Ralphy is one eyed Tiger who will put anything out there to help them. If Baker wants us and we want him it’s pick 23 and steak knives. Apparently the draft is so even and picks in the 40s were as good as 20s last year.

He’s trade suggestions involving Richmond this year. North give up a top3 pick for Balta and Eagles split and give 10-13 pick to Richmond, like cmon at least try and hide it a little

 

[random260]

I'm melting. Just cull one of Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

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Mid

Career

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Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

and Yeo and be done with the facade.

It seems like we are not getting them two on board and healthy at the same time. So just be done with it. Next year is even worse since they are a year later.

It's Shuey 2023 all over again

 

[stallon]

I'm melting. Just cull one of Tim Kelly and Yeo and be done with the facade.

It seems like we are not getting them two on board and healthy at the same time. So just be done with it. Next year is even worse since they are a year later.

It's Shuey 2023 all over again

Having one is better than having none.

 

[random260]

Having one is better than having none.

It's very annoying and frustrating. Idk the significance in impacting our chemistry.

But to have two of our highest paid players playing 60% of the time is annoying.

 

[stallon]

It's very annoying and frustrating. Idk the significance in impacting our chemistry.

But to have two of our highest paid players playing 60% of the time is annoying.

Yeo hurt his neck area after a tackle late last week, then his Dads funeral is on Monday I think?
It's no biggie if he's off this week

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

We'd better not do this.
I'd take Baker in a trade, Richmond can have their pick of BWilliams, Rotham, Darling or Sheed. Hell they can have all four if they want

I would rather Garcia over Baker.

Younger , not a runt and fair value .

You just know the Vic media will over value Baker

Best thing for us would be Baker sign 1 more year then leave as a free agent

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The prevailing assumption with Baker is that Fremantle will actually offer one of their R1 picks

Potentially, all of Fremantle, Port and Collingwood get no further than week 1 of finals so their lowest R1 pick might be 12

I doubt Fremantle are handing that over for Baker even with something coming back

So just because Fremantle have better picks doesn’t mean they’re going to hand them over easily, especially if Warner is their preferred target

We might also have the PSD as an option if Richmond climb above us on the ladder before the end of the season

The whole article is nothing but Ralph being a paid employee of the Richmond media team. No one is giving up pick 12 for Baker (as he suggested) and there is no way your guys are thinking about breaking up 3, in one of the deepest drafts known, for a 27 year old.

 

[southcoast]

Bodes well

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Not doing a lot for our age profile.


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[southcoast]

We might also have the PSD as an option if Richmond climb above us on the ladder before the end of the season

If Pyke is true to his word about pulling all levers to rebuild the list this is one lever I’d really like to us use.


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