List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

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  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

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  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

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  T

  2.6

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  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[stallon]

So you are essentially agreeing with me that we have no need for graham. Gotcha

No im not, Graham at 20-30% CBAs would be good, with him rolling up to stoppages around the ground.

 

[stallon]

Its not about performing at the same level. We are in a rebuild and have been on the bottom of the ladder for three seasons playing the same shit players. Blood young players when they are in decent wafl form.

Baker is unlikely to make it. But we already know guys like witherden, jones and Rotham aren’t A grade material. Jones and Rotham are barely D grade. There is zero harm in giving a young guy a run of games. If they are complete shit then simple decision to delist.

Baker needs to show enough in the WAFL to earn a spot. We need to stay competitive, just gifting games to every single teenager on the list is an awful idea.

 

[Godfather32]

No im not, Graham at 20-30% CBAs would be good, with him rolling up to stoppages around the ground.

Yeah nah

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Ryley Sanders VFL stats today
39 disposals
7 clearances
3 goals

Macrae had 43d 10clr and 6t in the same game so he might not even be next in. Plus the Dogs just beat the Swans so they probably aren’t changing their line up.

Sanders is constantly overlooked by Bevo and has shown frustration.

If TB is worth approximately 2 first rounders…

Sanders was 2023 pick 6
Busslinger was 2022 pick 13

What steak knives would need to go with TB to net us both young pups?

WB could then keep their Smith pick and English combo to bring in some draftees this year.

Sanders would be a great inside/outside accumulator to complement our bulls.

Didn't the dogs trade up to with gold coast get the pick they took sanders with? Trelor is 32. Sanders is his replacement. No way they let him go.

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[briztoon]

Good luck on the bid being after pick 4 or 5 for Levi. I suggest Mathew Clarke at pick 2 should be calling his name out. This is not to be a smartar$e and playing games. Twomey and Fox footy have Levi as top prospect and I highly rate him. I would be delighted to have Levi joining Harley in the midfield at West Coast if we could take him with pick 2.

Don Pyke is toughening up the trenches and he will likely endorse an early bid. Remember, one way of getting better is to weaken your opposition. I truly think Norf have learnt the lesson for not bidding on clearly the best player in the draft in Daicos to stoke the ego of Horny Frank. Likewise with Darcy. It is not as if either player did not make sense for Norf in their rebuild.

With SOS at St Blunders, he will likely have pick 4 and based on his track record, Levi will not slip past him. He likes to keep clubs accountable and he loves to keep the phone lines open as long as possible for possible trades when he is on the clock.

The difference between pick 2 and pick 5 is just over 500 points which is like a mid R2 pick Matching at pick 2 for Levi and pick 25 for Marshall, the Lions are going to need 2,770 points while you currently only hold 1,388. This is a shortfall of 1,382 or pick 7. Assuming your R1 gets a premium of say 25%, that still leaves you over 1,000 points short.

That all said, Levi and Marshall would be 2 brilliant pick ups for a club tipped to be in the GF.

It is what it is. The club will do it's best, where ever the bids come. There is a pretty good chance that we'll be picking mostly (only) academy players over the next 3 drafts.

 

[Godfather32]

Sure wish we had a slow defensive mid in the team tonight

 

[twce13]

Waterman is an easy one to just let play out. If a team comes with a godfather offer this year, then deal.

Otherwise let him play motivated in 25 on a contract year. Could net us some good compo in 12 months time and gives us another season to assess our stocks and how to move fwd.

What we shouldnt do, is look to extend him now or give him away for unders (ie a pick in the teens)

Forget what this fool said. Pay the man.

 

[Elite Pete]

Hopefully the Ginbey hate is gone for at least the rest of the season and anyone who says trade a 25yo forward like Waterman. Ban them

 

[Rowan18]

Anyone who wanted to trade Waterman-you need to uppercut yourself.

Anyone who thought we would finish last - you need to uppercut yourself.

Anyone who thought the rebuild hadn't started - you need to uppercut yourself.

Umpires- you need to uppercut yourself.

Commentators - you need to uppercut yourself.

Birds of Tokyo - you need to uppercut yourself.

UP THE F-ING COASTERS!!!!

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Waterman is every thing that's good about football
He gives us supporters hope in the dark times
So classy works his arse of team mates love him the fans get so loud when he gets the ball
He is our most important player

 

[Hoskin300]

Sure wish we had a slow defensive mid in the team tonight

This board is just desperate for a quick solution. Graham is clearly not he answer lol

 

[TerryFilk]

Life without Barrass doesn’t look so bad.

Trade him for a future 4th

 

[Elite Pete]

This board is just desperate for a quick solution. Graham is clearly not he answer lol

He might not be but most would see that win was the 25-33yo doing the heavy lifting to allow the young blokes to shine.

Some others won’t….. lol

 

[Hoskin300]

He might not be but most would see that win was the 25-33yo doing the heavy lifting to allow the young blokes to shine.

Some others won’t….. lol

The 25-33 year olds were A grade players. Graham is the furthest thing from.

 

[Obeanie1]

I havent done a mega trade in ages........

Not a proper one anyway!

 

[Elite Pete]

The 25-33 year olds were A grade players. Graham is the furthest thing from.

Hmmm.

He’s clearly not an A grader, he’s a role player which are very important.

It’s all about balance and getting that right, which helps with one of the most important things in football….winning. So let’s enjoy before the next ‘negative’ rumour to set some off

 

[Hoskin300]

Hmmm.

He’s clearly not an A grader, he’s a role player which are very important.

It’s all about balance and getting that right, which helps with one of the most important things in football….winning. So let’s enjoy before the next ‘negative’ rumour to set some off

Theres nothing wrong with just calling a spade a spade. Not every move the club makes need to be spun into a positive.

 

[Elite Pete]

Theres nothing wrong with just calling a spade a spade. Not every move the club makes need to be spun into a positive.

Agreed.

Plenty of things need to be called out at this club atm…

Don’t need to all be end of the world either for signing a 25yo role player for free…. but what ever.

 

[random260]

I've accepted we will get pick 3 which isn't ideal.

That likely means Draper and FOS is gone.

Thankfully the 3rd player who is the least risky is Jagga. So come on down Jagga.

If we wanted to play risky it's Lalor but don't know if I have the appetite unless we get Tobie as well in which case there's at least a 50/50 chance either Lalor or Tobie makes it as a mid

 

[Cuzz09]

2024 Waterman is our 2010 LeCras

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[eaglevision]

I've accepted we will get pick 3 which isn't ideal.

That likely means Draper and FOS is gone.

Thankfully the 3rd player who is the least risky is Jagga. So come on down Jagga.

If we wanted to play risky it's Lalor but don't know if I have the appetite unless we get Tobie as well in which case there's at least a 50/50 chance either Lalor or Tobie makes it as a mid

I’d be shocked if Jagga isn’t at the top of the Tigers board. We’ll have Draper or FOS available assuming we don’t split.

 

[ronpingwins]

If we’ve done home visits already on Smillie and Langford then I imagine they’re right at the top of our list.

 

[TerryFilk]

I've accepted we will get pick 3 which isn't ideal.

That likely means Draper and FOS is gone.

Thankfully the 3rd player who is the least risky is Jagga. So come on down Jagga.

If we wanted to play risky it's Lalor but don't know if I have the appetite unless we get Tobie as well in which case there's at least a 50/50 chance either Lalor or Tobie makes it as a mid

I think Richmond will go Jagga and North will go FOS or Trainor.

We will get one of Jagga, Draper, FOS or Smillie.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

How good has 2024 been for the development of Jack Williams? The guy has far outperformed my expectations and will help shape our list going forward. Well done Jack

 

[Jukes]

If Draper and FOS are gone, there’s certainly an appeal to get Smillie at pick 3 now that our current 194cm midfielder has become the best half back ever.