List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

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  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

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  M

  2.8

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  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

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  D

  12.7

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  K

  9.2

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  HB

  3.5

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  M

  3.0

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  T

  2.7

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  1.8

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  D

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  4.6

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  4.6

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  2.6

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[mattyc75]

Curtin played 6% game time today, bringing his average time on ground down to 31% over 4 games. He can't be happy with his situation there.

If he was to ask for a trade this year how much is too much to give for him?

1st rounder from the Hawks for Curtin and a 2nd rounder?
The 2+23 for 4+Curtin?

Maybe he doesn't deserve more?

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[mattyc75]

First year draftees are having impact these days because you pretty much can't touch them.

The top end ones are usually highly skilled.

Back in the day, guys like Mckercher and Sheezel would've gotten smashed.

Now you can't belt them, bump them or even tackle with intent.

I remember when Cousins started playing and he would get belted from pillar to post.

If a player like Nick Watson behaved like he does 10 or so years ago, he probably would've gotten stretchered off.

IMO, that's one of the reasons kids can come in and have an immediate impact.

Cousins had scratches all over him from libba, dirty midget

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[ghostbat12]

are we going to obsess over curtin for the next decade? Look for meanings in every possession, every move, everything he says and analyse it to death - but only in a way that it means that he wants to leave and come to us.

 

[Quinz]

I really don't want to lose TB

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

I really don't want to lose TB

This is typical West Coast thinking. Our club has to become more ruthless.

When was the last time we had 2 clubs fighting over a player who's 29 and will unlikely be part of our next premiership push, who could net us a good first and good second round pick?

We have players either playing out of position or in the WAFL who can replace TB. This will infinitely speed up our rebuild.

In my mind, this is a no brainer

 

[kerrazy]

Chad Warner

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Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

is proving to not be worth anywhere near the currency that was expected earlier this season.

His last two matches have seen him finish with 11 and 14 touches. He has shown that he is not capable of performing when the rest of his team-mates struggle.

Would still be very happy to have him but he is not a team you build around and I certainly wouldn't be offering what Shitney would expect.

Thankfully we already have that player to a build team around in Reid.

 

[ziad]

This is typical West Coast thinking. Our club has to become more ruthless.

When was the last time we had 2 clubs fighting over a player who's 29 and will unlikely be part of our next premiership push, who could net us a good first and good second round pick?

We have players either playing out of position or in the WAFL who can replace TB. This will infinitely speed up our rebuild.

In my mind, this is a no brainer

Fair point/s

 

[Ghossein]

Maybe he doesn't deserve more?

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if he "doesn't deserve more" then his trade value should be lower

 

[Ghossein]

Curtin's last 2 games in the SANFL had him kick 2 and finish with 20+ disposals

Adelaide - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

For me the Curtin situations issue is if we try trade for him now, Adelaide will want pick 3... which Daniel Curtin isnt worth

Id simply wait til next year, re asses and try target him then. If he comes, good. If he doesnt then we move on to never discuss the subject again

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Bc Yeo missed game, Kelly missed games etc etc. it's called depth

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You really think we said to Jack Graham

"Well Yeo gets injured a lot, so we can see a place for you in our team when Yeo is injured"

If he is coming, he is doing so on the understanding that he is playing in our best 22

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Looking at a 2025 B22, assuming Barrass leaves.

Set and forget locks:

FB: Hough McGovern Duggan

HB: Ginbey - Hunt

C: - Yeo -

HF: Ryan Waterman -

FF: - Allen -

R: - Reid Kelly

INT: J. Williams - - - -


Now adding in the incredibly likely, call them locks to get first opportunity:

FB: Hough McGovern Duggan

HB: Ginbey HEdwards Hunt

C: - Yeo -

HF: Ryan Waterman Hewett

FF: Long Allen -

R: - Reid Kelly

INT: J. Williams, Maric, Pick 3 - -

We have no locks at ruck and need to sort out our wings. We also need more forward craft - Cripps has been removed from any semblance of lock due to recent form, and equally a guy like Dewar has a way to go before becoming a lock. Then we get into the Chesser, Hall, Johnston, Bazzo’s of the world.

There’s plenty of opportunity for players to stake their claim here, but I also think there’s quite a bit to work with that you wouldn’t necessarily think given our results over the years.

You forgot Noah Long for the set and forget lock at forward pocket. If he isnt a set and forget then I dont know what is

 

[Ghossein]

For me the Curtin situations issue is if we try trade for him now, Adelaide will want pick 3... which Daniel Curtin isnt worth

Id simply wait til next year, re asses and try target him then. If he comes, good. If he doesnt then we move on to never discuss the subject again

straight swap gaff and sheed

 

[JackOutback]

For me the Curtin situations issue is if we try trade for him now, Adelaide will want pick 3... which Daniel Curtin isnt worth

Id simply wait til next year, re asses and try target him then. If he comes, good. If he doesnt then we move on to never discuss the subject again

There’s no conceivable way they get pick 3 for him. We also have something Adelaide want in terms of pick access to Draper. If we can get him for some of the deals suggested, I’d take it, though I’m not convinced Adelaide would. But if we wait to next year and his output improves (it looks good at SANFL level) plus not having anything Adelaide wants and he costs more.

 

[Cuzz09]

I want Draper.

If we get Curtin some other way then so be it.

But JTD

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[Miguel Sanchez]

For me the Curtin situations issue is if we try trade for him now, Adelaide will want pick 3... which Daniel Curtin isnt worth

Id simply wait til next year, re asses and try target him then. If he comes, good. If he doesnt then we move on to never discuss the subject again

He’d still be contracted next year, would Adelaide’s attitude be any different?

 

[Bender_]

Chad Warner is proving to not be worth anywhere near the currency that was expected earlier this season.

His last two matches have seen him finish with 11 and 14 touches. He has shown that he is not capable of performing when the rest of his team-mates struggle.

Would still be very happy to have him but he is not a team you build around and I certainly wouldn't be offering what Shitney would expect.

Thankfully we already have that player to a build team around in Reid.

The whole 2 first rounders is obviously a bit much, however I think you're being a bit harsh, the entire Sydney team is in a bit of a slump right now. Warner is quality - a bit similar to Tim Kelly where he need support - but geez it'd be mint to have him in our side.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He’d still be contracted next year, would Adelaide’s attitude be any different?

Nope but id like to think our pick 3 is pick 6 instead which makes it easier to stomach perhaps

I also think with the change in trade rules coming up we can probably move picks around easier to get such a deal done without killing our draft hand instantly like we would this season

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Jobe Shanahan with the 4 goals on his VFL debut with Essendon today. Not a bad effort.

Really like Shanahan, very good forward. He'll be a very good pick up.

Thoughts on Archer Day-Wicks? I'd quite like him with a later pick.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The whole 2 first rounders is obviously a bit much, however I think you're being a bit harsh, the entire Sydney team is in a bit of a slump right now. Warner is quality - a bit similar to Tim Kelly where he need support - but geez it'd be mint to have him in our side.

Form is temporary and class is permanent. In saying that Warner isnt a good fit for us. He plays the role I want Reid to play mostly. For Fremantle though he is the PERFECT fit and I mean PERFECT. I dont see 2 first rounders as being enough though just because Fremantle are likely to have them in the teens. If you had say pick 8 and 15 then thats another story. Sydney will need and want 3 top 20 picks which I think they get

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Curtin seems quite risky trade. Sounds like he wants to be a mid rather than a kpd and we really don’t need any more mids that have midfield potential but aren’t mids really.

Is it OK though, with Ginbey going back now. Curtin through midfield is quite damaging.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Any chance a desperate Sydney make another Tom Barass attempt? They 100% need another tall defender.

In this draft the whole pick 19,20 and then say Sheldrick looks good to me

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

If we did take Draper, I'd try bring his brother over too. To play Beagles.
Very handy footballer and would improve us.
Helps Draper feel settled in Perth too.

 

[WCErevival]

Is it OK though, with Ginbey going back now. Curtin through midfield is quite damaging.

Unless he's cheap then no. He's damaging at state level yes but so are guys like Culley. It doesn't mean much unless he can do it at AFL level. We need actual midfielders.

 

[eaglevision]

Any chance a desperate Sydney make another Tom Barass attempt? They 100% need another tall defender.

In this draft the whole pick 19,20 and then say Sheldrick looks good to me

Both parties (Barrass and Swans) have pissed each other off and his reason for moving to Sydney was his sister being there and she is now in Melbourne.

Almost zero chance.