List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  176cm

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  77kg

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  2.8

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  2.9

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  12.7

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  2.6

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  0.0

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[eaglevision]

Heard anything re the Baker deal?

That Freo are now ahead but still could go either way. Almost certainly won’t be at Richmond. So much to play out there with Bolton being the key to everything.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

That Freo are now ahead but still could go either way. Almost certainly won’t be at Richmond. So much to play out there with Bolton being the key to everything.

Hope he chooses Freo because there's no chance in hell that bloke's worth a first round pick, split or otherwise...Christ.

 

[CountryLad]

Last year there was a clear top 3. And a next teir.

Not so this year.

Names keep bouncing in and out of the top 20.

Food for thought.

If the top 3 from last year was in this draft there would also be a top 3 and a next tier in this draft.

 

[Goomba1973]

I personally would accept something between 16-25 for Liam Ryan. We currently hold 3 and 23. A chance to bring in 10 and 27 for Barrass.

That would leave us with 3, 10, 20 (Ryan trade), 23 and 27.

Would allow us to use one of the picks in the 20s for Baker (potentially the Ryan pick), whilst bringing in 4 top 30 players and Malakai late.

Essentially straight swap Ryan for Baker.

With the demand for high end KPD defenders and WC holding all the cards , Pick 10 and 27 won't get the deal done. Hawks will need to either turn their pick 27 into a late first rounder or offer up a future first. WC won't accept anything less than 2 first rounders for Barrass ( I would be surprised if they do). I would not go after Malakai Champion , I just can't see him being anything more than enigmatic list clogger. I would draft Jaxon Artemis with that late pick, the WA MVP from the national carnival. Attacking wing / halfback , very quick on his feet, fantastic user of the ball, high level footy brain.

Give pick 23 to the tigers for Liam Baker , Give 77 95 and 113 to GC for pick 47, get pick 10 and a 17 (however they turn 27 into 17) from the Hawks for Barrass . We go into the draft with 3, 10, 17, 47 and 59.

Pick 3 - Draper , O'Sullivan or Smilie
Pick 10 - Trainor , Lalor or Murphy Reid
Pick 17 - Lindsay or Hynes
Pick 47 - Artemis
Pick 59 - Champion if he is still there.

Baker comes in via trade for pick 23
Graham comes in via free agency .
Keep Ryan (unless a first rounder is offered) and keep Harry Edwards
I will change this 4367 times between now and draft night

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Food for thought.

If the top 3 from last year was in this draft there would also be a top 3 and a next tier in this draft.

Reid, Mckercher and Walter all go pick one ahead of this years mob

 

[ghostbat12]

Dogs have apparently offered their F1, other teams are interested but I’m not aware of the details of their offers. If it lands on pick 9/10 and pick 28 for Barrass and his 3 year contract I think that’s fair.

And his 3 year contract?

$700k across 3 years is worth hell of a lot more than basically a 2nd rounder. Bet you top teams would pay at least a first rounder to have someone take $700k off their books for 3 years.

 

[eaglevision]

And his 3 year contract?

$700k across 3 years is worth hell of a lot more than basically a 2nd rounder. Bet you top teams would pay at least a first rounder to have someone take $700k off their books for 3 years.

It’s clear this is being misinterpreted because I worded it poorly. I replied to another similar post above that all I meant by that is being under contract increases his value, hence the addition of the Pies 2R to the trade. I didn’t mean that we pay his contract.

 

[ghostbat12]

It’s clear this is being misinterpreted because I worded it poorly. I replied to another similar post above that all I meant by that is being under contract increases his value, hence the addition of the Pies 2R to the trade. I didn’t mean that we pay his contract.

Ahh.

On the trade,it’s all way too agreeable between clubs at this stage for my liking.

 

[eaglevision]

Ahh.

On the trade,it’s all way too agreeable between clubs at this stage for my liking.

I think there’s some goodwill there from last year and the way the Brockman deal was done. It’s in both clubs interests to get a deal done early and there will be a lot more clubs than Hawthorn coming for Barrass.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

It’s a good year to be trading small forwards when the bar has been set at Lachie Schultz being worth pick 8…

Fremantle are the opposite of WC. Extracting immense value from genuine middling footballers.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Good thought on radio this morning was that Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

and Port Adelaide would be a very likely situation. Port have a huge need for a HF along with the fact Ryan has relationships at the club already with Jason Williams and Willie Rioli

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Willie Rioli

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

which would make any transition easier. They have chased many a half forward in recent times and failed

Could easily be a case of future 1st for Ryan + peanuts from Port.

 

[Elite Pete]

Not appealing at all.

Is there another club who can offer a better trade?

TB would have to agree, he will pick his team and we will work around that and get a deal done. Unlikely he changes his mind once it’s set, very few cases of that happening.

Cal who when he goes with something is rarely wrong. Sounded very confident when he said the Eagles should be barracking against the Hawks for the rest of the year to get that pick to fall.

Pies win last night would’ve been handy

 

[ghostbat12]

I think there’s some goodwill there from last year and the way the Brockman deal was done. It’s in both clubs interests to get a deal done early and there will be a lot more clubs than Hawthorn coming for Barrass.

Hardly an over the top offer from hawks to make it sound like a good will gesture.

 

[eaglevision]

Good thought on radio this morning was that Liam Ryan and Port Adelaide would be a very likely situation. Port have a huge need for a HF along with the fact Ryan has relationships at the club already with Jason Williams and Willie Rioli which would make any transition easier. They have chased many a half forward in recent times and failed

Could easily be a case of future 1st for Ryan + peanuts from Port.

Port and Essendon are the two clubs I’ve heard have a lot of interest in Ryan. Not sure why Essendon with Kako coming on board but they are essentially going to try and swap Wright for Ryan as unlikely as it sounds.

 

[eaglevision]

Hardly an over the top offer from hawks to make it sound like a good will gesture.

Not saying it’s a goodwill gesture, saying the clubs will work together and get a deal done early if Barrass is happy with the $$ and eagles are happy with what’s on the table. Won’t be like Cats, Port and Dons dealing with each other.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Port and Essendon are the two clubs I’ve heard have a lot of interest in Ryan. Not sure why Essendon with Kako coming on board but they are essentially going to try and swap Wright for Ryan as unlikely as it sounds.

He is 1000% choosing Port over Essendon unless Essendon just go insane with the financial offer

 

[Godfather32]

Good thought on radio this morning was that Liam Ryan and Port Adelaide would be a very likely situation. Port have a huge need for a HF along with the fact Ryan has relationships at the club already with Jason Williams and Willie Rioli which would make any transition easier. They have chased many a half forward in recent times and failed

Could easily be a case of future 1st for Ryan + peanuts from Port.

You reckon we'll get a fair deal from Port? No f**king chance

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If Ryan leaves to move interstate, but couldn't handle the rigours of a training camp down south, then I'll pack the lazy prick's bags myself.

 

[ronpingwins]

Port and Essendon are the two clubs I’ve heard have a lot of interest in Ryan. Not sure why Essendon with Kako coming on board but they are essentially going to try and swap Wright for Ryan as unlikely as it sounds.

Wright’s had a pretty poor year, with Caddy coming on ok it’s a good idea. Can’t imagine they’d get more than token currency for him though. Is it a bit ambitious to be expecting more than say pick 30 for Ryan?

 

[eaglevision]

Wright’s had a pretty poor year, with Caddy coming on ok it’s a good idea. Can’t imagine they’d get more than token currency for him though. Is it a bit ambitious to be expecting more than say pick 30 for Ryan?

Personally I think Ryan’s worth about pick 20 under contract and worth even more than that to WCE. However I’d prefer to trade him with a salary contribution to bump that pick up to a mid 1R. Having salary paid would work for the two clubs I see as the best fit which are Freo and GCS but still think a move interstate would be more unlikely than likely.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Good thought on radio this morning was that Liam Ryan and Port Adelaide would be a very likely situation. Port have a huge need for a HF along with the fact Ryan has relationships at the club already with Jason Williams and Willie Rioli which would make any transition easier. They have chased many a half forward in recent times and failed

Could easily be a case of future 1st for Ryan + peanuts from Port.

When did Ryan cross paths with Jason Williams?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

When did Ryan cross paths with Jason Williams?

No idea. Never heard of the dude til they mentioned his name. Had to Google his name to figure out who he was

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You reckon we'll get a fair deal from Port? No f**king chance

Well they do owe us one or two so maybe it’s time to repay the favour

 

[Godfather32]

Well they do owe us one or two so maybe it’s time to repay the favour

Hopefully the new guys are a bit better negotiators than the pieman and co

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I wonder if the club will have the gaul to trade out our future 2nd rounder to get more involved in this draft.

Future 2nd id trade for Gold Coasts pick 26 or Freos pick 25