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Re: Please read.

The Donners said:
He should be playing half-forward/forward pocket ala Stevie J imo.
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Like Hurley, Darcy will bring flexability to the side. **** I'm excited about the future.
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Serioussly, the Hawks supporters were predictably embarrassing at the game yesterday and really should be ashamed. Right from the get go, they were screaming for suspensions for the slightest of bumps. when Atkinson caught the guy (cant remember who) who marked the ball in the first slightly late they were in hysterics. Lloyds bump looked fine to me, even watching it a few times, but I fear he will be a political scapegoat in light of the Buddy fiasco.
 

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Re: What I have learnt this year

The return of Hille and laycock is vital for 2010.

Ryder mentioned on Bomber TV last week that he has been tired from rucking and has been sleeping lots more.

Obviously with another preseason Ryder's residual fitness will increase but Ryder's value will increase with Hille and or Laycock sharing the ruck duties.
 
Re: Stanton ~ Almost a Hawthorn Match Winner..

adii_7 said:
I cannot stand him any more. He has become more inconsistent then McPhee and running into goal has become an absolute dud. His kicking used to be good... what has happened?

what about his useless looping handballs..

he truely is hopeless.. but im willing to perserve
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Is it possible that you the biggest whinger on this board ?
 
Re: What I have learnt this year

cooper6 said:
Why? The year is nearly over and I was just voicing my thoughts. I'd be interested here others thoughts.
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Because we have a final to worry about.
 
Re: Stanton ~ Almost a Hawthorn Match Winner..

wicksy said:
As an outsider looking in (please note i dont mind you guys so it's not a troll), Stanton is terrible!!!

I was at the saints game and he was shocking that night.... turnover after turnover!

Yesterday was no better.

Atkinson and Hurley..... Now they are your future!! :thumbsu:
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LOL Stanton was one of our best against the Saints
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Whomb said:
Hypocrisy at its best.

Bateman is yet another ****ing dog wearing a Hawthorn jumper. The funny thing is, the Hawks supporters loved it, and clapped him off afterwards. It was intentionally dirty, unlike Lloyd's.

This isn't just based on yesterday, either. About two years ago my brother pointed out to me that Bateman often goes to ground in a tackle as to receive a free kick for a high tackle; he holds up players behind play; he often makes little whacks on his opponent behind play. He's a dog of the highest order.

Upstaged only by Campbell 'sniper' Brown.
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Evening gents,

I am enjoying this thread, it asks if Lloyd can take legal action and every one on here is being derogatory towards someone or another!

The facts are quite simple really, Lloyd did exactly what he has been doing for years, unfortunately the rules have now changed which will see him suspended. In my opinion it was a much more significant indiscretion than Buddys because Sewell had his head down, however I can see that others will try to disagree.

Lloyds actions whilst I daresay will remove him from the finals, won you blokes the game, I guess you need to make the choice whether that was worth it. I would have loved the Hawks to play finals though I dont think we would have gotten very far, which is very similar to you guys I hate to say.

It will definitely be a shame for Lloyd if he now leaves the game with his name firmly tarnished in the minds of a great deal of the footballing public. Though I for one don't care, he made the decision, won the game for his team and must now accept the consequences. I won't remember Lloyd for being a great player though rather one that took cheap shots to impact the contest.

I do however look forward to more great contests next year, was a great game of football!
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

kelvin_sheedy said:
Have a look at the 12 second mark. A clear push. If you are running at pace then any sort of nudge is going to cause you to get off balance.

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A clear push...are you serious. I suppose you also believe in the tooth fairy. I would also say if you believe hard enough it must be true...Lloyd will get 3 weeks.
 
Re: Votes vs Hawks

lamaros said:
Lol no, was actually at the game. Kind of hilarious how you attempt to say "don't just look at the stats" and then try to use those same stats to justify why you choose who you did.

:p
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Read again mate, I said "disposals" not stats. Stanton had over 30 disposals but only 16 of them were efficient. If you think that is good enough then good on ya. Most of them would have been from when he plays "hot potato" with it when under pressure. As long as he gets a stat and doesn't have to be tackled he is happy!
 

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Re: Stanton ~ Almost a Hawthorn Match Winner..

I think adii has a point.

His 'efficentness' isn't the best.:D

Seriously, another good game from someone who's carrying a groin injury.

This is really tiring.
 
Re: Stanton ~ Almost a Hawthorn Match Winner..

He is a good player. Nothing more, nothing less.

I wouldn't be against trading him, thats for sure.

If we could somehow get him to the Tigers for Lids it would be a win for the club.
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Bosk said:
How about Brad Sewell having grounds for legal action against Matthew Lloyd?

Sewell has a fractured cheekbone & eye socket thanks to Lloyd's actions.
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Yaeh, cos a court would convict someone of that. Any decent Lawyer would argue that Sewell contributed to his own injury You are clutching at straws there bud.
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Bosk said:
How about Brad Sewell having grounds for legal action against Matthew Lloyd?

Sewell has a fractured cheekbone & eye socket thanks to Lloyd's actions.
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By playing a contact sport Sewell has consented to being suseptable to injury via accident, unlike the leigh Matthews hit whereby he was blatantly reckless and negligent.
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Campbell Brown has been told to make no further comment (ostensibly by his clubs lawyers).
However, this is something new to me. I don't remember any player going on air after an incident on the field to attack someone in the opposing team. Footy players have a tradition to leave on the field what happens on the field.
 
Channel 10 Commentary

I went to the game yesterday. Came home taped the game. I thought that was one of the most biast commentary i have ever seen against Essendon. Robert Walls? Stephen Quartermain ? Michael Christian?.

Stephen Quartermain - by the way essendon ARE leading the freekick count.

Robert Walls - he was talking like Lloyd is the softest guy on the planet, he is an absolute joke. He said Gilham is an experienced defender.

The only person who has spoken the dead truth out of anyone has been Brian Taylor this morning.

While Robert Walls was saying Lloyd is scared. Brian said he liked it how everytime Lloyd got hit, he just took it and got straight back up.

Anyone agree?
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Valve Bounce said:
Campbell Brown has been told to make no further comment (ostensibly by his clubs lawyers).
However, this is something new to me. I don't remember any player going on air after an incident on the field to attack someone in the opposing team. Footy players have a tradition to leave on the field what happens on the field.
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Didn't Chad Cornes have a bit to say earler in the year. After he accused Lovett of dobing.
 
Re: Channel 10 Commentary

Carlton supporters should not be allowed to commentate Essendon games.

Fin.
 
Re: does lloyd have grounds for legal action

Godzke said:
Lloyd's Case:

- Essendon, via its administration, may politely request that statement be withdrawn by Campbell Brown by talking to Jeff and his board. However, Matthew Lloyd should just take it on the chin as he did for the remainder of the game when he continued to put head over the footy. No legal action should be sought
- At the tribunal, Essendon should ignore completely the "Lloyd was pushed". It will not stand, there was barely anything there.
- Lloyd lowered his body to the ground.
- Sewell was upright when Lloyd initially went for the bump.
- Lloyd did not run in off the line to take him out but rather looked for the tackle initially (as his arms were spread).

Outcome: 3 weeks, early plea for 2 maybe
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regrdless of Llyods defence the verdict will come down to did Llyod have an opportunity to tackle Sewell, based on what I saw I would say that he did which means Llyod is in trouble
 

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