Preview R20: Changes vs. Hawthorn

[George Kramer]

Dawson out gives Curtin the perfect opportunity to be picked

That’s the role Curtin is playing in 2s and playing quite well

Could play a combo of wing , inside mid and half forward like Dawson does

Absolute no brainer

 

[MsTopG]

Out
Butts Dawson Himmelberg Smith

In
Worrell Curtin Walker Hamill

Max Keane Worrell
Hamill Murray Hinge
Sholl Soligo Dowling
Rachele Walker Taylor
Murphy Fogarty Thilthorpe

ROB Curtin Berry

Keays Bond Laird Nankervis

Sub: Cook

 

[FR0GGY]

So you think we are likely to lose by more than our worst loss this year (42 points to Sydney)? Do you think the Hawks are at that level away from home?

They were slaughtering port (until the went defensive)

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Almost correct. They won't drop Smith.

Make him sub then.

 

[Crow_Magnon]

Surely Hamill would be the only one we'd consider rushing back. He hasn't missed as long as the others and they have a lot of dangerous smalls.

Yep. He missed last time, so I think he should come in provided his hand is OK. Interestingly, we had Burgess, Jones, Schoey and Crouch in last time (and we were flogged in clearances) and Tex off early due to injury. So add Dawson and Butts to that list and it's a big change. We have Tex back, TT, Bond, Dowling and Murray* to replace 5 of those. I'd definitely prefer Curtin to replace Dawson, and depending on Murray's fitness and Hawthorn's selections, I'd bring in Hamill or Jones (if they go small), or if they go taller - if Murray not right, then Borlase (who played a very good game against them last time with 11 marks). Note that the I50 count last time was 63 to 41....and Crouch was one of our better mids that day (until injured late) - but I'd still given him a week or so in the twos. Much better balance this time with this line-up I think.

 

[davos44]

In: Borlase, Curtin, Tex
Out: Butts, Murray, Dawson

I would like to see Cook back in the SANFL to get some better form but Nicksball only supports forced changes after a win. Even if he did, he would go out for McHenry to come in.

If Ryan was playing it would be announced by now.

 

[DangerSloane]

Assuming all of Murray/Butts/Keays/Dawson are out

In: Walker, Borlase, Worrell, Cook, Curtin, Jones (sub)
Out: Himmelberg, Murray, Butts, Keays, Dawson, Cook (sub)

I’d go Smith for Hamill too, but let’s be honest, that won’t happen

This is similar to what I think. Is Murray definitely out? Might be a rest regardless of whether its serious or not.

Cant play Walker, Berg, RT and Fog, and Berg is the clear drop from that bunch.

We might be blessed by Hawks not having a tall forward line.
Is it just Chol/Koschitzke? Cant recall if they've been playing other talls.

 

[Grooster24]

It's a very good point...they have a plethora of quality small forwards which probably exceeds our supply of true lockdown small/med defenders (esp. with Hamill out injured). Unfortunately Smith, Nankervis and Hinge are going to need to match up on some of Watson, Breust, Ginnivan, Moore, Macdonald, Hardwick at various stages...this is definitely Hawthorn's path to victory and potentially their ability to rebound quickly out of defence if we go tall in attack.

Edit: there's possibly cause for a recall for Jones this weekend to address this issue...could see him replacing either Himmelberg or Cook if the selectors wanted to go that way.

Yep. Can see Smith having a big impact on this game with his inability to defend, especially 1 on 1.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Yep. Can see Smith having a big impact on this game with his inability to defend, especially 1 on 1.

Yeah that'll be an eyesore

Even forgetting his form this year, Smith always seems to play poorly against the Hawks - him getting run down at Marvel in 2022 against them lives in my head rent-free

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

This is similar to what I think. Is Murray definitely out? Might be a rest regardless of whether its serious or not.

Cant play Walker, Berg, RT and Fog, and Berg is the clear drop from that bunch.

We might be blessed by Hawks not having a tall forward line.
Is it just Chol/Koschitzke? Cant recall if they've been playing other talls.

Dear.

Kozzie was traded to Richmond.

 

[Bazz_27]

Apart from tassie Hawks have won 1 game interstate this year

 

[CromradeCromulent]

part of me is afraid of Curtin staying out and them rushing crouch back

 

[jimvic]

Dear.

Kozzie was traded to Richmond.

Sic plays there too at times if they want to go tall

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sic plays there too at times if they want to go tall

They will need him back against our talls.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

part of me is afraid of Curtin staying out and them rushing crouch back

That would be insanity... but nothing would surprise me with our selection panel who have made many desperate selections this year.

 

[Tex Danger]

Curtin received our highest coaches votes after Madgen:
North v Adelaide
10 – Jack Madgen (Adelaide)
8 – Daniel Curtin (Adelaide)
6 – Campbell Combe (North)
3 – Ned McHenry (Adelaide)
2 – Chris Burgess (Adelaide)
1 – Mitch Harvey (North)

This is after polling our only votes vs Norwood the week before and was emergency for the Essendon game. He’s coming in this week for Dawson, zero doubt.

Didn’t know coaches votes were done in SANFL, far more useful guide when not watching than trusting listed bests or the clubs post match media release.

What’s Ryan been voting like? People here talking up his form but are the coaches votes showing that recognition (half) internally

 

[SellarStardom]

Assuming all of Murray/Butts/Keays/Dawson are out

In: Walker, Borlase, Worrell, Cook, Curtin, Jones (sub)
Out: Himmelberg, Murray, Butts, Keays, Dawson, Cook (sub)

I’d go Smith for Hamill too, but let’s be honest, that won’t happen

This is about right but Keays is no an out. So Walker , Borlase, Cook, Curtin and Jones in

Murray, Butts, Dawson, Himmelberg out (Cook to starting role but wish it was Murphy)

 

[Mutineer]

Didn’t know coaches votes were done in SANFL, far more useful guide when not watching than trusting listed bests or the clubs post match media release.

What’s Ryan been voting like? People here talking up his form but are the coaches votes showing that recognition (half) internally

Yep every week under the SANFL Footy Fix header..

Every round available there.

Round 15 SANFL Footy Fix - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[1970crow]

Yep. Can see Smith having a big impact on this game with his inability to defend, especially 1 on 1.

Imagine how bad we’d be if he wasn’t tutoring the other defenders out there?

 

[Tex Danger]

Yep every week under the SANFL Footy Fix header..

Every round available there.

Round 15 SANFL Footy Fix - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Interesting Schoenberg got 2 in the 3-2-1 (Eugene warrior) but nothing in coaches

A 1 and a 2 a few weeks back for Ryan so some recognition but not a strong indicator either way

 

[Gtowncrow]

With Tex returning and TT and Fog unlikely to miss, I can't see how young Murray could get a game.

1st ruck.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Wonder if Laird is still sore?


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That's a really interesting point. Barely made it through last week.

 

[jenny61_99]

Apart from tassie Hawks have won 1 game interstate this year

To be fair, they’ve only played outside vic/tas three times i think.

 

[AFC979810]

That last Hawks game still stings.

Hawks went into it 4-7. We went into 4-6-1.

We were full of confidence having won 3 of our last 5 (one loss by 4 and a tie).

Talk about a swing game - after beating us Hawks win their next 3 straight and we lose 3 of our next 4.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

VB on radio :

Not giving much away but did say Curtin in the conversation at match selection.
But the tone suggested they are worried about “over exposing” a young midfield with Laird
the only experience amongst the kids.

Feel Keays may see some more mid time by the way he is speaking.