Autopsy Statement made Against Collingwood 27 point winners

[Kapers]

Our run & carry by hand has been drastically improved over the course of the season and it's what has made us a legitimate contender. That it wasn't a strength of this team was the one thing that was most likely to get in the way of us winning the flag, because you need it to withstand opposition pressure when they swarm and tackle.

Exhibit A, the passage that led to Papley's great snapping goal early on.

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Not one of those handballs is perfect. Heeney's handball goes over Stephens' head. Rowbottom's handball lands at Parker's ankles. Parker's handball is too far in front of Mills. Mills' handball is to Florent who is under immediate pressure. And Florent's handball is to Papley who isn't much better off.

But it matters not because there's always a Swan there, so every handball can be an attacking forward one because they know the next Swan is there for the receive. Everyone's moving and working hard and getting into the spots to either mop up the other's mess, or capitalise on the other's class.

All of the above are under pressure, but they're making it work. That was missing from a lot of our first half of the season, and it's actually remarkable how quickly we have adapted this run and carry into our game style so successfully. Typically it takes teams 1-2 seasons to get this kind of team cohesion together, and we've seemingly done it on the fly in about half a season. Just insane.

I can't remember where I heard it, but someone was talking about how coachable our side is.

We have shown an ability to adapt our gameplan and shift with the opponent, incredibly exciting.

 

[Bandicoot]

McRae said in his presser the size of the SCG meant some things for his side didn't work.

Which i found quite weird for a coach to say that.

As Gerard Healy continually tries to tell everyone, the SCG ground size is not that dissimilar to a few other grounds.
No one ever complains about the size of the Gabba yet we are only 4.5M shorter in length and 2M less in width. So from the centre of the ground we are talking 2.25M and 1M in each direction. That's going to make a huge difference to team structure isn't it.
At Marvel, we are 8M shorter in length but 7M wider. So the square meters of the two grounds is almost the same.
If there is any ground that people should complain about, it's Geelong's home ground which is 26M less in width.

 

[Bandicoot]

My point is there might not be any momentum left by the time the bye comes. We would've played seven straight weeks of balls to the wall footy.

I agree. With so many young bodies having played their guts out for 7 weeks in a row, I think the week off will be great for us.

 

[Bandicoot]

Agreed.
Would love to have had the sound off but couldn't miss the crowd atmosphere.
Who was that guy with the annoying voice who just piped in every now and then with a pro-Pies comment ?
(also, the same one we didn't hear from once the game was sealed).

Shaun Burgoyne. He sounds 100% worse than Kelly Underwood.
Then again, suits channel 7. Everything they do re footy commentary is rubbish.

 

[Bandicoot]

Haha, harsh but fair enough!
If we make to that last Saturday in Sep I might start a GoFundMe page for flights, ticket & babysitters!
I didn't know her in 96, but in hindsight I should've tried harder in 2006, 2014 & 2016!
(not sure anything or anyone could've saved us in 2014 though )

Even she couldn't have outweighed three umpires playing for the dogs in 2016 either.

 

[kelpie_X]

To be fair on the commentators their employers have advertising and subscriptions to sell and hence they have a narrative to push and the last thing you’ll ever hear a commentator on a commercial outlook admit to is that a game is done and dusted.

That’s why listening to games on ABC radio is so refreshing. The commentators are completely free to speak their minds.

I love BT on the radio, but when commentating on TV he is unbearable

 

[kelpie_X]

No sadly they didnt, lost by 11 and had a stack of injuries (lucky they fielded a team at all really aged from about 18 to 40ish ) to get as far as they did was a bit of a miracle. And for a one team only club they managed to raise $35,000 for cancer research this year. Very proud of them on and off the field.

This is why I love grass roots footy

 

[kelpie_X]

Has anyone mentioned the banner at all? Not a big deal in the scheme of things but it should still be called out. That was atrocious.


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Don't the AFL have to approve banners or is just a "guidelines" thing

 

[SwansProudly]

The Great Wall of Sydney
Note: Isaac is on centre/wing, then sprints like hell to get the ball in goal square to tap to Franklin
Play of the year!!

 

[kelpie_X]

Eddie McGuire would be loving this - I have this terrible feeling that when Gill goes, one E Maguire is going to take the helm.

If that happens, then we all know that the AFL is corrupt.

 

[Syd]

The Great Wall of Sydney

Loved that whole sequence of play, probably my favourite for the entire year TBH

 

[mattpolo8]

Don't the AFL have to approve banners or is just a "guidelines" thing

I believe they do.

However Sydney Cheer Squad have lodged an official complaint with the AFL. There's certain etiquette and spirit of the game cheer squads need to abide by. That, does not.

 

[bedford]

Shaun Burgoyne probably. Great person, terrible commentator.

I wouldn't say great person , absolute tightarse

 

[Bandicoot]

If that happens, then we all know that the AFL is corrupt.

The AFL IS as currupt as most third world dictatorships. There's no question mark associated with that.
The book "The Boy's Club" has already proved that beyond any doubt.
All the people applying for Gill's job who are from outside the AFL's inner sanctum are simply wasting their time. I would wager my house against $100 that the job will go to either Dillon (AFL Solictor) or or the dill who does the draw every year (his name escapes me).

 

[monopoly19]

The “Sydney crowd doesn’t know footy” is so entrenched that people can’t reflect on how ridiculous it is. Shows a complete lack of understanding of how consistently the Swans have been supported in Sydney itself (aside from our strong interstate bases) for many, many years.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

If that happens, then it is confirmed that the AFL is corrupt.

FIFY.

The Boys' Club by Michael Warner - Books

<i>The Boys' Club</i> lifts the lid on the scandals, secrets and deals that have shaped AFL, Australia's biggest sport.

www.hachette.com.au

 

[Grongey]

Sorry haven't read previous.

I saw the Collingwood banner on Sunday, needling us about COLA. And those of you who watch Footy Classified, now we know in advance, this week's running list, i.e. it will be '..the grubby Swans supporters were booing poor innocent petal Ginivan..'. And then cue another whinge about COLA/Academy.

The Giants need to understand, concessions are accepted ..until your club starts to be successful. And then the Victorian club presidents get to whispering into the ears at AFL House..and the 'AFL House Boys Club' will listen.

Flat-out untruths were peddled about the Swans and COLA.

About the match..epic, a genuine team effort. Special mentions to: Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

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23

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184cm

Wt

80kg

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Mid

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Last 5

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10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

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3.3

3star

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3.0

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1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

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10.3

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7.0

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3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

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1.7

3star

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0.0

1star

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10.3

3star

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7.0

3star

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3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, he is really stamping his mark. And Robbie Fox

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10.8

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2.5

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2.8

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151.3

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12.2

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5.4

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3.6

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and Jake Lloyd

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14.4

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403.9

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M

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2.2

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MG

357.4

5star

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[SBD Gonzalez]

The “Sydney crowd doesn’t know footy” is so entrenched that people can’t reflect on how ridiculous it is. Shows a complete lack of understanding of how consistently the Swans have been supported in Sydney itself (aside from our strong interstate bases) for many, many years.

But didn't you know? We're all too busy discussing the froth on our lattes or wondering if our chardonnay is a teensy bit corky.

 

[bedford]

The Great Wall of Sydney
Note: Isaac is on centre/wing, then sprints like hell to get the ball in goal square to tap to Franklin
Play of the year!!

Just keep watching this

 

[Grongey]

Just keep watching this

The gut-run by Heeney was stunning.. He was at the back of the square in that play, then re-appeared in the goal square to tap it on to Buddy!

 

[caesar88]

The Great Wall of Sydney
Note: Isaac is on centre/wing, then sprints like hell to get the ball in goal square to tap to Franklin
Play of the year!!

It's seriously epic and should shut up anyone who ever has a negative thing to say about Heeney.

For every great thing he does with the ball, he does twice as many great things without it.

He'll retire a Swans legend.

 

[momentbymoment]

To be fair on BT it felt like the entire team just walked out of the Collingwood cheer squad into the commentary booth. Collingwood four goals down most of the game and didn't look close to winning and they were carrying on like there was 5 points in it.

That was the script for the night.
Brave Pies for the win …

They were all doing it but the Swans said nuh.

 

[SSwans2011]

Personally, I don't really care about the Pies' banner. It's embarrassing more than anything else.

They've got bigger things to worry about than an allowance that hasn't existed for the better part as a decade, like making it through the first week of finals, let alone the second.

 

[momentbymoment]

It's seriously epic and should shut up anyone who ever has a negative thing to say about Heeney.

For every great thing he does with the ball, he does twice as many great things without it.

He'll retire a Swans legend.

I remember watching Heeney at Drummoyne oval in a VFL match before he was drafted. I had no idea who he was but I couldn’t keep my eyes off him. He didn’t do that that much in the game, but there was something about him that said - this kid is a star in the making.

 

[McRobie]

Unpopular opinion but I couldn't care less about Ginnivan being booed. He's a cheat and mooched a goal from a duck.

I think you’ll find it’s more popular than you think.