List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  25

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Still want to know what the club hasn’t seen from Petch that they are still waiting to see?

 

[Cuzz09]

Reckon other sides would offer something half decent for petch

Sent from my SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Still want to know what the club hasn’t seen from Petch that they are still waiting to see?

It is ridiculous how long we hang onto players that are way way way below average.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It is ridiculous how long we hang onto players that are way way way below average.

Could not agree more. If I can see after 20 games that a player is average then surely afl clubs can see the same.

 

[stallon]

Reckon other sides would offer something half decent for petch

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A 3rd rounder?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Could not agree more. If I can see after 20 games that a player is average then surely afl clubs can see the same.

Unfortunately a lot of our players used to be better .
Its because our midfield is totally dog shit our forwards can't get near it and our backs get slaughtered

 

[stallon]

Imagine if we had an average defensive mid of some sort and an actual ruckman who can breakeven in hitouts sometimes and stay on the park.

 

[bzparkes]

Is our rebuild going to be saved by getting 3 first rounders for scrap picks next year?

Hopefully.

The new NGA rules are a gigantic leg up for WCE and Freo.

Watch them put a stop to it quickly once we start to benefit.

 

[Patron]

mock trades to generate as many picks as possible
BW for pick 39
Pick 2 for 8 and 9
Tom Cole for pick 37 and pick 66
Petch f3 for Garcia and pick 45.
Take picks 8, 9, 23, 37, 39, 45, and 59.
2 first rounder 2 2nds 2 3rds 1 4th

Unfortunately the gap between our first (whether it be 1, 2 or 3) and 7/8 just isn't that big this year. No way GC is giving us 7 and 8 - maybe with a future second or swap of future firsts.

 

[Dylan82]

Thank f**k that the club was saved from its own stupidity at the draft last year.

Imagine finishing last this season having already traded away the first round pick.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Unfortunately a lot of our players used to be better .
Its because our midfield is totally dog shit our forwards can't get near it and our backs get slaughtered

You don’t lose ability, it’s the want and the will that changes. Look at Cripps today, totally not interested. Why is that?
What annoys me with our mids is they never lockdown. If you keep getting beaten out if the middle you need to lockdown and just go into defensive mode. Just make sure your opponent in the middle doesn’t get it. We never lockdown we just keep going through the same set ups and get smashed.

 

[mat11]

Thank f**k that the club was saved from its own stupidity at the draft last year.

Imagine finishing last this season having already traded away the first round pick.

I'd feel sick if we had curtin now and no pick 3. If gc or freo were crazy enough to take our f1 for 2 firsts this year that's a different story though

 

[bzparkes]

Thank f**k that the club was saved from its own stupidity at the draft last year.

Imagine finishing last this season having already traded away the first round pick.

I completely agree with you however Curtin was BoG last week for Adelaide and near BoG this week also, playing mid both times.

I doubt we'd have played him there however.

 

[Keys]

What would we have to do bid on him for say a pick 30?

Under current rules we’d need the equivalent of 432 points to match

The 4th round pick we hold (pick 59 on current ladder position) is worth 158 points.

So we’d need to either take a points deficit into next year or trade a future pick to get more points this year

The latest a pick could come for Champion that we could cover with our R4 is at pick 45

That assumes no changes to the bidding system as they aren’t expected to apply until 2025

 

[Mulldogg]

Out of interest, anything to read into about Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

’s intentions given Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

43

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

has come out and said that he won’t be applying for the West Coast role?

Fair to say that our list has limited appeal to any prospective coaches.

 

[Tugga27]

I completely agree with you however Curtin was BoG last week for Adelaide and near BoG this week also, playing mid both times.

I doubt we'd have played him there however.

TBF, you'd have to see a bit of Curtin so we can make the call.

As it stands, I'd have liked to see a bit more of him at AFL level.
I'm still glad we didn't trade for him last year.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Gonna be a tough climb up the ladder severely hamstrung by the AFLs ineptitude and our own with soft cap reduction and the dilution of talent with another AFL team to come on board. Don’t envy pyke this will be the hardest rebuild we’ve done. Need to take advantage of the nga academy in the next 2/3 years to accelerate the rebuild and fix our god aweful wafl development

 

[footy_basis]

I'd feel sick if we had curtin now and no pick 3. If gc or freo were crazy enough to take our f1 for 2 firsts this year that's a different story though

So many ridiculous posters on this forum were calling for that trade also. The same old posters you see everyday. Curtin is not worth top 5 in any draft.

 

[maverick001]

Jagga Smith with a casual 31 touches in his VFL debut

I've been a doubter based on vision seen, but this can't be ignored. Was thinking he could be Masten, but could be Neale. Maybe it's more Neale

I dare someone to take Smillie over him now.

 

[maverick001]

Getting his hands on it has never been a weak point.

True but there's been 2 knocks on him (i) kicking & (ii) can his very slight frame match it at the higher levels.

If he's getting 31 in a vfl debut, it certainly de-risks point ii a bit

 

[maverick001]

Reid
Ginbey
Hewett
Hough
Maric
JWilliams
HEdwards

+ Obvs Allen & Snake but they're substantially older

That is our future that we need to build around. A LOT of holes to fill.

We'll probably get another couple of hits from others (listed below) who we haven't seen enough of, or there is uncertainty over. But either way we desperately need some more top 20 picks pronto, and to nail most of them.

Maybes....

• Chesser - I'm more glass half empty than full, but not ready to put a line through him yet
• Long - Has shown a bit but I feel good small forwards either need to be natural goalkickers (he is not) or quick & good defensively (he's not quick & therefore prob not great defensively). Has good footy smarts & goes welll when he gets his hands on it, but I fear that may not be enough
• Bazzo - Maybe if he stays fit
• 2023 draftees - AReid, Hall, Johnstone - obvs can't comment until they have the exposure
• Hutchinson - Maybe but that is more being hopeful rather than having anything tangible to go on as yet

I think Ryan is the most logical choice to trade that might net us a good pick. TB maybe if the price is right. I think all the plebs ppl are floating for trade (Petch, Cole, BWilliams) will get us 2/5ths of fck all.

If the AFL aren't giving us PP this year when they've dished out to Norf the previous 2 years there's something wrong.

If we can land a Garcia for cheap that'd be great as I think he seems AFL standard & in the right age bracket

WISH LIST - which is pretty obvs

• A take to the bank mid / either an accumulator (Smith maybe but Murphy & Langford potentially also qualify) or runner (draper) or someone who is a bit of one & bit of the other (FOS)
• Run/carry & kicker off HB (x 2 in time)
• ditto above but on wing
• KPd
• Pressure forward with nip & preferrably someone who can kick a snag
• Ruck

 

[maverick001]

Off-field I'm hoping for Carr as coach

Has a hard edge which I think is needed given a lot of the players seem to pick & choose when they put in effort. Hopefully he'd stamp out Harley's carry-on too. Just as long as he can do without getting players offside.

Also he was very highly rated tactically when at Freo. My old man know's JL's old man & said he was a big loss when went to Port.

But with Hinkley likely on his last legs, I feel he'll stay at Port.

 

[maverick001]

I like this.....They're getting 22 for Graham & our 2R this year & next for Baker

All club boards have guys like this though I suppose

 

[DRK_13]

It is ridiculous how long we hang onto players that are way way way below average.

Whats also ridiculous is the amount of below average players on this team getting extended run in the Best 22 when they were on the fringes at their previous clubs.

We need to be seriously questioning our standards at this footy club if our recruiting strategy is to sign guys like Jamaine Jones, Alex Witherden, Matt Flynn and Jayden Hunt, when they hardly got a game at their previous clubs, were delist material, or 2nd/3rd in line in their position.

Hell even our "prized recruit" Tim Kelly was a role player (yes a good one) at Geelong and he was sold to us as a superstar mid.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

I like this.....They're getting 22 for Graham & our 2R this year & next for Baker

All club boards have guys like this though I suppose

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Clearly cuz left his pipe at punt road