Ed Allan is not going anywhere.Cmon Dave, look at the positives. Look a how our later picks have improved![]()
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Markov noble Maynard turnovers
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Ed Allan is not going anywhere.Cmon Dave, look at the positives. Look a how our later picks have improved![]()
No more Markov nobleEd Allan is not going anywhere.
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Markov noble Maynard turnovers
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Pies were in the same spot in 2013… brought in value players like howe, crisp,
Drafted value players like Maynard,
A bit of luck needed… but with retiring veterans sone serious cap will be freed up for free agents
… playing for a big club with Fly as coach is a plus for attracting talent![]()
CBF - to be honest.you're slipping, you forgot to quote the post number.
Look at all the premierships won in the last 20 years. The reality is unless you nail a first round draft pick, you’re never going to win a premiership (role players don’t win premierships). The last first round draft pick Hine nailed (if you rule out father - sons) is Scott Pendlebury. That was almost 20 years ago. We pay these guys a huge amount of money to pick the best players in the draft and if they fail year after year, how do they keep their jobs?Pies were in the same spot in 2013… brought in value players like howe, crisp,
Drafted value players like Maynard,
A bit of luck needed… but with retiring veterans sone serious cap will be freed up for free agents
… playing for a big club with Fly as coach is a plus for attracting talent![]()
You don't need to rant and rave but sure drop players and take a squad mentality those performing best play. Yet for.some reason the club was allergic to it earlier. Strange considering the brutality the axe was wielded last year. I.e. Noble ginnivan (can we have him back?) and lipinski demoted to sub in gf
Keep side bottom pedalbury.CBF - to be honest.
Can’t cop these people that have no integrity.
It’s an absolute joke - and worse the media are silent.Only at Collingwood can our players clash heads with the opposition and both times ours are ruled off with concussion with the other 2 staying on the field the entire time.
It's actually insane that we've been significantly worse and less connected as the senior players have been making their way back in
Pendlebury prior to hurting his arm was genuinely looking like turning the clock back
Since coming back he looks borderline average. At best. But given our track record this year, we most likely brought him back early and he's playing injured.
Pendles was 26 yo (pick5)in prime,
Steele 25 yo (pick 10)in prime,
26yo T.Cloke kicked 51 goals 190 Marks and was unstoppable in air AA level CHF.
Pick 8 Ben Reid was 24yo hitting prime years.
Pick 18 B.Grundy 20yo ruck taking AFL by storm.
Star D.Swan still 29yo.
Didak Shaw Thomas etc moving on helping secure Adams etc.
Degoey Pick 5 and Moore pick 8 come in 2014.
The Age and talent demographics are completely different.
Absolutely this. It's the one issue I have with Fly. For an ex-development coach to consistently sub Macrae/Reef in and out of games then drop them and barely give them time to settle in whilst relying heavily on SSPs and wasting match experience on them when they barely produce better is a big issue.there is a player development issue at the club .... picks from the draft proper are not coming through as expected ..... whilst SSP, mid-season pick-ups* are by comparison over-represented in team selection
just an observation - make of it what you will ...... im off before getting abused by long-termers![]()
If Ginnivan had put that level of effort in when he played for us he’d still be with us.
He treated today like his GF instead of the one he got to play in last September.
Happy to move anyone on who is past it, but unfortunately Pendlebury is probably top 5 Copeland at this stage, and you don’t move on your best players no matter how old they are.
Pendlebury has never had pace.
I have been saying pretty much what you have stated so eloquently. OK. I am still absolutely amazed how Derek Hine has kept his job. When I think about the selections of Schareburg & Freeman, respectively, when compared to what was available to us over those 2 picks & especially Patrick Cripps, then I am simply amazed. Then we had the Dayne Beams recruiting debacle & so & so on. Finally, I do not understand Collingwood's aversion to recruiting key position players. I think that the last time that we recruited key position players was in the 2006 AFL National Draft when we drafted Reid Dawes & the other guy who played full back in the 2010 Premiership team. Regardless, we are totally finished for 2024 on today's form. OK. Goodnight & good luck.I said earlier in the Game Day thread that I have no idea how Hine is the only one left from the Maguire era.
I have no idea why we kept a head recruiter who is allergic to recruiting key position players and genuine class that isn't father son.
We have butchered a staggering amount of first round picks under Hine.
That 2013 Draft is absolutely HAUNTING when you go back and look at what we took and what went after what we took.
- Patrick Cripps
- Zach Merrett
- Alex Pearce
- Aliir Aliir
- Nick Holman
- James Sicily
- Karl Amon
That's just the main ones. All came well after our first two pick inside the Top 10
Some of those even came after our LATER picks.
You’re having a laugh
2 of them were horrible
there is a player development issue at the club .... picks from the draft proper are not coming through as expected ..... whilst SSP, mid-season pick-ups* are by comparison over-represented in team selection
just an observation - make of it what you will ...... im off before getting abused by long-termers![]()
McCreery and Schultz big omissions as well. Our forwards just aren't locking the footy inside our F50 without them.
So I’m saying thanks for the career Steele and Howie. I’m giving Pendles one more but as a forward pinch hitting in the mid. Need him to be that on field coach and he’s still av good player who deserves a spot.
Markov gone, one of Reef or AJ gone, one of Steene or Begg gone. That’s five plus JC forced retirement and possibly Krueger he’s body might just say enough.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Finn asks for a trade in fact I wouldn’t blame him if he did. So without even trying that’s a fair few gone.
WHE lucky, same as Noble
Better opposition on Grand Final day 2023If Ginnivan had put that level of effort in when he played for us he’d still be with us.
He treated today like his GF instead of the one he got to play in last September.
Tom Mitchell ??? He did a power of work in the packs for you guys last year like he did for us , would’ve suited him today. You guys are a bit off tap at the moment with a lot of injuries and guys like De Goey not fully fit and Moore playing the worst football of his career I reckon. Can turn around quickly though. All the best .More then just Murphy
While I’m glad we’re taking a welfare stance first independent doctors can’t come soon enoughOnly at Collingwood can our players clash heads with the opposition and both times ours are ruled off with concussion with the other 2 staying on the field the entire time.